Burn In.swf (humor, NSFW)

I wish I could spit fire to.

Moved from the Humor section 'cuz it got unfunny.
~Abelian Sea

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Going to war over religion is basically killing each other to see who has the better imaginary friend. - Richard Jeni

Religious people really don't know much about religion. - Bill Mahar

Looks like it was sponsored by Camel and Marboro and aimed at teens.

I can't tell if that was Shogun at the bar or if he was the guy at the table with his junk hanging out.

*smirks* You sound like one of those anti-smoker freaks. It was a joke cartoon made by people who stand on neither side of any issue. They just make fun of things, period. Don't read more into things than there is, Camel and Marlboro just happen to be the most well known companies so it's only natural to use their adverts.

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All things in moderation and reality.

If you can't laugh at tragedy then the tragedy will only weigh you down and keep you from moving on. - A KittenKoder Original (I hope)

Role Playing Games are for fun, to be enjoyed and tell stories, the dice are just there to keep your hands busy. - KittenKoder

Going to war over religion is basically killing each other to see who has the better imaginary friend. - Richard Jeni

Religious people really don't know much about religion. - Bill Mahar

I am a smoker, thought it was funny! And also like the fact you can't smoke in bars in my state most of the time! For one you smoke less and save money! I hate it when it is freezing outside! Like Bill Mahr says " You guys wonder why smokers are sick all the time." We have to stand outside all the time.
It is nice to be able to bring your kid to a bowling alley without it being full of smoke, I am smoker but I don't like smoke around my kid.

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I'm a pink lunger. Shogun hasn't told you??!!

The graphics were good, I'll grant you that.

As a former bartender, I thank you for your thoughtfulness.

I disagree with forcing it as law, but that's the only point I disagree with the anti-smoker freaks. I didn't accuse anyone of being an anti-smoker freak, it just sounded like one. Being for some non-smoking places doesn't make you a freak, just means you have an opinion. The freaks are the ones that push their opinions into laws.

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All things in moderation and reality.

If you can't laugh at tragedy then the tragedy will only weigh you down and keep you from moving on. - A KittenKoder Original (I hope)

Role Playing Games are for fun, to be enjoyed and tell stories, the dice are just there to keep your hands busy. - KittenKoder

Going to war over religion is basically killing each other to see who has the better imaginary friend. - Richard Jeni

Religious people really don't know much about religion. - Bill Mahar

I'm not going to get into it tonight but did you ever consider that bar employees deserve the same workplace safety protections that any other type of employee gets? They aren't second class citizens just because they are servants.

I also read this story about a bar in Ireland that now pipes in the smell of smoke! Before the smell of smoke was hiding the other smells! After this I did notice bars don't always smell good anyways!
The day are smoking ban went into place it was 10 degrees outside, I hated it that day but now most bars have warmers, covered patios. Quite a few have outdoor areas where you can bring your drinks.

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" He is able who thinks he is able." Buddha

"Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy."
Benjamin Franklin

" A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
Friedrich Nietzsche

Yeah, but a law is still the wrong way to go. I know a LOT of people who work in bars that smoke as well. The difference is to take the owners freedom of choice away is the same as to take the freedom away from anyone else. If you want government regulation, fine, then they shouldn't have to pay taxes either.

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All things in moderation and reality.

If you can't laugh at tragedy then the tragedy will only weigh you down and keep you from moving on. - A KittenKoder Original (I hope)

Role Playing Games are for fun, to be enjoyed and tell stories, the dice are just there to keep your hands busy. - KittenKoder

Going to war over religion is basically killing each other to see who has the better imaginary friend. - Richard Jeni

Religious people really don't know much about religion. - Bill Mahar

I somewhat agree with you! For two bingo halls closed down due to the law because people just went to the indian casino where you could smoke. These two halls raised money for Big Brothers and Sister, and a Guild school which is for children born with birth deffects.

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" He is able who thinks he is able." Buddha

"Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy."
Benjamin Franklin

" A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
Friedrich Nietzsche

Now a law saying that they have to offer a separation, that's okay, like an equal smoking and non-smoking part when they are able without drastic rebuilding, that's cool. But forcing one ideas on another is wrong no matter the reasoning.

For an example of almost equal weight:
Red Meat has proven to be very unhealthy, and, even without skewing the numbers, is responsible for many health problems. Should all businesses be told they can no longer serve this harmful substance?

Also, South Park pointed out one fact that even I did not notice, the leaders of the people who are pointing fingers at smoking are obese, isn't that a more serious problem that is more easily fixed? (P.S. I don't believe in the obesity scare either)

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All things in moderation and reality.

If you can't laugh at tragedy then the tragedy will only weigh you down and keep you from moving on. - A KittenKoder Original (I hope)

Role Playing Games are for fun, to be enjoyed and tell stories, the dice are just there to keep your hands busy. - KittenKoder

Going to war over religion is basically killing each other to see who has the better imaginary friend. - Richard Jeni

Religious people really don't know much about religion. - Bill Mahar

I figured i'd better go ahead and open this thread because I knew damn well Ang would bring up my name.. and what do you know.. second post.


first, i can't seem to see the flash video. so...

second, I was a bartender too, Ang. I understand what it means to provide a location that clients will want to go to when they don't have to. If you want to work at a non-smoking bar then great. Go do that. Your non-smoking clients can come with you. Yet I can show you how the application of draconian policies like the ones that you enjoy not only fail to reduce smoking but do nothing but drive business out of bars. We have two examples of that exact thing happen in Missouri. Maryville, where I went to school, and Columbia, where I now live. I can tell you that many people refuse to go to bars just to patronize a place that charges .75 cents over the price per beer of a six pack taken to a party that allows smoking. Maryville rescinded it's smoking ban on bars. I expect columbia to do the same. If you don't want to work in a smokey bay then dont. No one forces you to take any job.


you goddamn pink lunger.

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He's like a maniac with a shotgun that doesn't run out of ammo.

Your "freedom" stops at my nose.
I know a lot of people who smoke, work in bars and are very glad those laws are in place.

Shall we just remove all non smoking laws and let people smoke anywhere they like? Hospitals, schools, libraries?
Why should employees in those places be protected, if food service employees don't deserve protections?

The opposite happened in my area. restaurants and bars reported a 15% increase in customers.
In any case, does the means justify the ends? Should those bingo halls have remained places where employees were denied protections so that a charity could benefit?