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05-06-2008, 09:30 PM
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Rep Power: 33 | | | What Would You Do About Fatties? If you were in power?
1. Nothing. It's their business.
2. Tax them for every pound over 20 pounds over normal weight. Their fatness isn't just a personal issue because it shifts costs to the rest of us through health insurance, etc.
3. Fine them. Their repulsiveness isn't a mere matter of choice, it pollutes the aesthetics of the community.
4. Force them to lose weight. Sparta kicked ass for a reason. America needs to shape up for its coming battles.
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05-06-2008, 09:35 PM
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Rep Power: 166 | | | why would someone need to do anything? I don't care if fat people are fat. | 
05-06-2008, 09:52 PM
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Rep Power: 21 | | | I would say "do nothing". This is their choice. Besides who decides what is "normal weight". I see and know of a few people who are supposedly overweight yet can move pretty fast and kick some serious ass. These people dont have any medical conditions that I know of so there isnt any "extra cost" to taxpayers and they have their own medical insurance.
Then there is the aesthetics issue...Some people just look better with some extra meat on them bones. Actually I prefer to look at a football player than say a sickly/skinny computer nerd.
And as far as Sparta goes...If and when the end of the world comes. Those with extra meat will die last of starvation. They have further to go before they shrivel up.
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05-06-2008, 10:13 PM
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Rep Power: 44 | | | America today would kick Sparta's ass because overweight, computer literate nerds are designing advanced weapons systems. Give Xerxes a single platoon with Metal Storm weapons, and 300 Spartans are gone in less than 300 seconds.
Who needs to block out the sun with arrows when you have Apache helicopters?
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05-07-2008, 05:01 AM
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05-07-2008, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by William Joyce If you were in power?
1. Nothing. It's their business.
2. Tax them for every pound over 20 pounds over normal weight. Their fatness isn't just a personal issue because it shifts costs to the rest of us through health insurance, etc.
3. Fine them. Their repulsiveness isn't a mere matter of choice, it pollutes the aesthetics of the community.
4. Force them to lose weight. Sparta kicked ass for a reason. America needs to shape up for its coming battles. | I'd ask them to pigpile on William Joyce.
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05-07-2008, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dread ...If and when the end of the world comes. Those with extra meat will die last of starvation. They have further to go before they shrivel up. | Unless the skinny people become cannibals. | 
05-07-2008, 09:26 AM
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05-07-2008, 09:51 AM
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Fat people have it tough enough. They have bigger grocery bills, are less attractive (by most people's standards, anyway), smell worse, have less energy... and even if that's not true for all individuals, those are prejudices society will form. Maybe I'm just an asshole, but it definitely ruins my day when I board a plane and get seated next to a fatty - sure to make my flight less comfortable.
There's plenty of incentive for overweight folks to get in better shape - being fat is already tough enough! I don't think we need to penalize them further.
Unless, of course, universal health care becomes reality. Then I'd definitely hike up taxes on everything that could potentially hurt one's health - junk food, alcohol, cigarettes.
Personally, I'd prefer to have my freedoms and live with the consequences of my choices. | 
05-12-2008, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TopGunna Personally, I'd prefer to have my freedoms and live with the consequences of my choices. | Of course, but what if you knew that because of health insurance, taxes or the socialized medicine to come, YOU WERE PAYING DEARLY for others' 'freedom' to be fat?
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05-12-2008, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dread Besides who decides what is "normal weight". | Oh, good point. A 490-pound body on a 5'8'' frame is normal weight, if that person doesn't think they're fat. Problem solved.
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05-13-2008, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by William Joyce Of course, but what if you knew that because of health insurance, taxes or the socialized medicine to come, YOU WERE PAYING DEARLY for others' 'freedom' to be fat? | Recent studies are showing that being over weight has much less of an effect on heath than lack of exercise. | 
05-13-2008, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Anguille Recent studies are showing that being over weight has much less of an effect on heath than lack of exercise. | Ohh so we should force everyone to exercise then?
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05-13-2008, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RetiredGySgt Ohh so we should force everyone to exercise then? | Once again, you are setting up straw men. She did not say that, and only a bitter psychotic would infer that she did.
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05-13-2008, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dogger Once again, you are setting up straw men. She did not say that, and only a bitter psychotic would infer that she did. | Sure thing retard. You should have one of your staff read things for you on this board so you do not look the fool all the time.
It really is a simple concept. The thrad is about poor health and forcing others to pay for it. Now I personally disagree with the premise that the Government has any right to tell anyone how to live their life, what to eat and when to exercise, but responding to the fat issue with a comment that exercise is the problem fails completely to address the actual question.
Something a Lawyer should know.
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