http://mwhodges.home.att.net/soc_sec-a.htm

What a freaking scam, socialism at it's worst. Inefficient social programs, now let's add a new entitlement...Universal healthcare. When is the government going to stop wasting our money on these failed programs?

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Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.
Will Rogers

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel or envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Winston Churchill

And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country.

JFK

No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain

Perhaps they could waste it on another somewhere

Ohh they will if they can.

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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.

-Bertrand Russell

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable

-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.

-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

Iran?

No, A Government, especially ours, will spend every dime plus more it can get its hands on. Remove one program and 5 more crop up. We have elected officials spending millions on pet projects all across this country, some of them projects with absolutely no redeeming feature except they spend government money in the persons district or State.

It is one thing to look out for ones constituants it is far from that what our elected officials do in the Senate and the House.

Hell the programs mentioned would be in better shape then they are if the funds were not ( in the case of Social Security) General funds, available to be used for any Government spending anyone can dream up.

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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.

-Bertrand Russell

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable

-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.

-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

Pork-barrelling. We do it too. It's a bloody disgrace.

Like the wizard of oz some people need to go out in search of a heart. If a society cannot support its own it has no right to call itself a society. If for this brief second of time that we exist, we are so selfish we cannot support each other than we are a sad species of primitive being.

excellent site
http://www.swans.com/library/art14/desk067.html

"Following the money is not easy in this global economy and all the schemes and scams that dot its landscape. Take, for example, the path of $16 billion in contracts the U.S. awarded KBR, the former subsidiary of Dick Cheney's Halliburton, for work in Iraq; money that was funneled through shell companies in the Cayman Islands in order to avoid paying US taxes, while Iraq's reconstruction languishes. Or consider the growing number of billionaires on planet Earth in a zero-sum economic game that rewards the lucky few with diamond-studded dog collars, and sends pets-turned-financial-burdens back to the shelter for the unlucky many victims of the subprime-credit-housing scandal that has only scratched the surface. Our Martian Blips..."

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"We have an obligation and a responsibility to be investing in our students and our schools. We must make sure that people who have the grades, the desire and the will, but not the money, can still get the best education possible." Barack Obama

It wasn't the wizard that was searching for a heart, it was the Metal Lumberjack. And it turned out he always had one. Just as your claim we have no heart is bogus.

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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.

-Bertrand Russell

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable

-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.

-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

What would you suggest we have instead? Should we not ensure a standard of living in America?

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Luminous Beings Are We.

Govt can't ensure a standard of living. People are responsible for their own successes or failures and have no business in blaming others for their own shortcomings.

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Learn to labour and to wait -- Longfellow

Then why is government involved in preventing crime? Get raped? Its your own damn fault. Obviously you weren't careful enough.

To be more specific, people who look towards govt to make them happy. It is within one's self that happiness is attained. Btw, I'm very happy with my tax dollars going to support law enforcement.

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Learn to labour and to wait -- Longfellow

How very Zen of you.

No, people look for government to make sure they don't get fucked over. Either by someone raping you, by the cruelties of the marketplace, by unfair monopolies, gouging companies, etc, etc.

No, I'm not Zen either. Is that what you look for? Not me. The less govt we have to muck everything up the better. Before you accuse me of being an anarchist, Ill spare your thought process, I'm not.

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Learn to labour and to wait -- Longfellow

But yet you just espoused an anarchist ideal.

Alrighty then.