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09-06-2008, 11:18 PM
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If I were Russia, this would be my response. Pot%20Kettle.jpg
Dick Cheney accusing someone else of brutality, I feel that irony has been taken to a whole new level now.
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09-06-2008, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert_Santurri | You pissed your pants maybe ?
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09-06-2008, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dilloduck You pissed your pants maybe ? | Actually no, I was going to make an Dubya levee joke but that would of been wrong. Guess I'll just have to stick with this one. They shall not take Atlanta.jpg
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09-06-2008, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert_Santurri Actually no, I was going to make an Dubya levee joke but that would of been wrong. Guess I'll just have to stick with this one. Attachment 5794 | Well I'm glad you didn't send Cheney that cute little attachment. You would have really embarrassed me.
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09-06-2008, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dilloduck Well I'm glad you didn't send Cheney that cute little attachment. You would have really embarrassed me. |  Feel free to ignore the issue at hand here though.
I guess Dubya wasn't that great of a decider after he looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul. luckovich1121.jpg
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09-06-2008, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert_Santurri  Feel free to ignore the issue at hand here though.
I guess Dubya wasn't that great of a decider after he looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul. Attachment 5795 | Putin could have shot an ICBM at the eastern seaboard, regardless Obama would sit down with him to negotiate. Afterall, he would negotiate with anyone without any pre-conditions 
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09-06-2008, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jreeves Putin could have shot an ICBM at the eastern seaboard, regardless Obama would sit down with him to negotiate. Afterall, he would negotiate with anyone without any pre-conditions  | I really doubt that. Though I suppose you think these two would do a better job then Obama? bush_mccain_400.jpg
Could of fooled me. Least we know with McCain he's not going to try and land any airplane on a carrier. 
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09-06-2008, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert_Santurri I really doubt that. Though I suppose you think these two would do a better job then Obama? Attachment 5796
Could of fooled me. Least we know with McCain he's not going to try and land any airplane on a carrier.  | Well I mean if he would meet without any pre-conditions then yes he would sit down with Russia if they had launced an ICBM at the US. That's the absurdity of his foreign policy position.
Seriously do you have anything of substance against Mccain, other than a Quasi connection between him and Bush? Wonder why you don't talk about his great record against earmarks or his independent record. Oh that's right, that wouldn't be keeping to the TP's now would it?
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09-07-2008, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert_Santurri  Feel free to ignore the issue at hand here though.
I guess Dubya wasn't that great of a decider after he looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul. Attachment 5795 | I guess he wasn't--good thing Cheney is calling the Russians on it instead of George.
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09-07-2008, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jreeves Well I mean if he would meet without any pre-conditions then yes he would sit down with Russia if they had launced an ICBM at the US. That's the absurdity of his foreign policy position.
Seriously do you have anything of substance against Mccain, other than a Quasi connection between him and Bush? Wonder why you don't talk about his great record against earmarks or his independent record. Oh that's right, that wouldn't be keeping to the TP's now would it? | I'm sure he would treat each situation differently. Least it's not something along the lines of this. YouTube - Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran
Something of substance against McCain personally? No I respect the man for his time as a POW, cancer survivor, and of course serving his country.
McCain doesn't have an independent record, least not anymore. I love how Republicans are saying this man is a Maverick against his own party, he's not anymore because he wouldn't of got the nomination otherwise.
He voted with Bush this % of the time:
In 2001: 91% of the time
2002: 90% of the time
2003: 91% of the time
2004: 92% of the time
2005: 77% of the time
2006: 89% of the time
2007: 95% of the time
That results in voting with Bush: 89.2% of the time
Least according to this: Media Matters - AP "FactCheck" distorted Dems' claim that McCain voted with Bush "90 percent of the time"
And this: FactCheck.org: Is it true John McCain voted with George Bush 95 percent of the time?
He doesn't sound like no Maverick to me.
Oh and his record against earmarks? McCain had criticized earmarks from Palin - Los Angeles Times An Old Earmark of McCain's Surfaces | The Trail | washingtonpost.com Think Progress McCain Falsely Claims He Has ‘Never Asked For A Single Earmark Or Pork Barrel Project’ For His State mccain-real-life-funnies.jpg
And one last thing on the "Maverick" myth: MilkandCookies - Daily Show: John McCain: Reformed Maverick
Now go, and never darken my towels again.
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09-07-2008, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dilloduck I guess he wasn't--good thing Cheney is calling the Russians on it instead of George. | Cheney calling someone out on being brutal is like China calling out a country on human rights. 
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09-07-2008, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert_Santurri Cheney calling someone out on being brutal is like China calling out a country on human rights.  | No worries--I'm sure Russia and the world will get the message instead of whining about hypcrisy--but then again--maybe they will ! 
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09-07-2008, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dilloduck No worries--I'm sure Russia and the world will get the message instead of whining about hypcrisy--but then again--maybe they will !  | Oh yes, the world will get the message. The World.jpg
Besides, Putin now has alot more in common with Cheney. They both run things behind the scenes while a puppet is on the forefront as the "leader." 
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09-07-2008, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert_Santurri I really doubt that. Though I suppose you think these two would do a better job then Obama? Attachment 5796
Could of fooled me. Least we know with McCain he's not going to try and land any airplane on a carrier.  |
yeah, because a pic means so much more than policy differences
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Originally Posted by DiveCon
yeah, because a pic means so much more than policy differences | Nice one, I'll take that one and raise you this. mcain-cheney.jpg 
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