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09-01-2008, 02:42 PM
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Yeah, we need to sit on the sidelines and let the 800 pound monster devour the 98 pound foe. Russia is beginning to sound more and more like the old USSR.
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09-01-2008, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JimH52 | No doubt my friend. The best part about this is many people in the U.S. think Georgia started this war, lol. Listen to what the heads of Russia AKA USSR said. They have zero intent of leaving and will not stop until Georgia is theirs again! Mark my words. | 
09-01-2008, 11:23 PM
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Rep Power: 21 | | | Europe is so afraid that Russia will cut off their energy supplies, that might allow that to happen. bush needs to look Putin in his eyes again and tell us what he sees now.
He is returning to his old KGB ways.
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09-02-2008, 08:30 AM
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Rep Power: 10 | | | Huh.. everyone knows we've been giving military aid to Georgia... Hell there were images of the russians towing away american humvees... the marines asked for them back btw... | 
09-02-2008, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JimH52 | Or to put it more accurately, it is acting just the way it acted when it was Czarist Russia AND Communist Russia.
Doesn't matter what kind of government is in place, any form of government, operating under any type of economy, can be imperialistic. | 
09-02-2008, 08:44 PM
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Rep Power: 20 | | | You know, I don't ever recall a vote being held to see if we should ally with freaking Georgia. You know we have the Monroe Doctrine with Roosevelt Corollary; why expect Russia to do any less with the areas around them?
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09-02-2008, 09:20 PM
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Rep Power: 21 | | | I guess with bush and Darth Vader in the House, you never can tell who they might invade next. But Putin is eyeing the revitalization of the old USSR. If Georgia is easily taken back, then on to the next victim! Europe will do nothing for fear of Russian reprisal.
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09-02-2008, 10:42 PM
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Rep Power: 20 | | | Russian pop culture may be invoking Soviet Era symbology but this is only because it is percieved of as a time of greatness. Currently they are headed towards a Spanish or Italian model of Fascism in my lofty estimation. I'm not sure exactly what the power relationship is between Putin and Medyedev but I am confident that Russia is going to be an oligarchy. Dictatorship shouldn't be discounted though.
After Yeltsin took over an oligarchy of business interest developed, Putin has done much in restructuring this to his ends according to what I've read. I find the Karate, Fishing, and Tiger Hunting episodes disturbing though.
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09-07-2008, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JimH52
Yeah, we need to sit on the sidelines and let the 800 pound monster devour the 98 pound foe. Russia is beginning to sound more and more like the old USSR. | Why not? The rest of the world just ignored it when we invaded Iraq.
It isn't the United States job to police the world. This conflict between Georgia and Russia is primarily a territorial despute, and that makes it none of our business. Also, doing something that could potentially start a war with Russia... pretty much the dumbest thing the United States could do right now. | 
09-08-2008, 02:53 AM
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Rep Power: 1 | | | Precisly, and it was the Georgians who started to shell cities.
If my 89 pound friend picks a fight with an 800 pounder, relying on me bailing him out, I would think that some education of that friend is in order.
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09-08-2008, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JimH52 |
Which sounded a lot like Tsarist Russia.
It's an empire, amigo.
That's what empires do. | 
09-08-2008, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Odd1_Out Why not? The rest of the world just ignored it when we invaded Iraq.
It isn't the United States job to police the world. This conflict between Georgia and Russia is primarily a territorial despute, and that makes it none of our business. Also, doing something that could potentially start a war with Russia... pretty much the dumbest thing the United States could do right now. | The most sensible post in this thread.
There's going to be a major world war before the end of this decade. You can just feel it in the air these days.
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09-08-2008, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Paulitics The most sensible post in this thread.
There's going to be a major world war before the end of this decade. You can just feel it in the air these days. | Thanks, one of those rare positive comments you see on these boards. | 
09-09-2008, 04:29 AM
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Rep Power: 1 | | | That is what is worrying me too, the US is a world power with a powerfull military and a breaking economy, this was a very volatile combination for the majority of history. I can only hope that it wont go down with a bang.
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09-09-2008, 06:45 AM
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Rep Power: 43 | | | Having lived the vast majority of my life under the treat of all out nuclear war, with only some brief respite from it for the last decade or so, all I can say is that by developing ABM systems we actually are destabilizing the balance of MAD which I suspect kept us from having a nuclear war weith the Soviets for at least thirty years.
The management of this nation seems to WANT us to go back into a cold war posture.
Sadly, now that we are also embroiled in this mess against most of the Arab and Islamic worlds, reviving cold war tensions seems like not such a good idea.
Were I in charge, I think I might be trying to forge a more perfect alliance with Russia instead of baiting the bear by ringing that fearful nation with ABM systems.
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