It just blows my mind Hezbollah and Hamas are given any kind of legitimacy. They're criminals. They should be forced to surrender or fight. Screw this leading a strike crap as if they're anything more than dirtbag, Iran-backed terrorists.

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You'll get no disagreement from me. But I'm sure Shogie will call me more names.... you know, like Ms. Holocaust.

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The moral Jimmy Carter would disagree with you. You know this is just some zionist Jewish conspiracy anyways.....

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http://www.irinnews.org/report.aspx?reportid=26242

Hezbollah not only has armed and political wings – it also boasts an extensive social development programme. The group currently operates at least four hospitals, 12 clinics, 12 schools and two agricultural centres that provide farmers with technical assistance and training. It also has an environmental department and an extensive social assistance programme. Medical care is also cheaper than in most of the country’s private hospitals and free for Hezbollah members.

Most of these institutions are located in the country’s more marginalised areas, such as Beirut’s southern suburbs, in South Lebanon and in the Bekaa Valley. “We have special sections all over the country that provide financial and food assistance to the poor,” said Hezbollah spokesman Hussein Nabulsi. “We also run an emergency fund for instant care in case of immediate hospitalisation.”

Condemning them as simply criminals and terrorists is an oversimplification.

No, making them out to be anything more than the criminals they are is just repeating the propaganda they know you and those like you will do. They're xenophobic murders with the stated agenda of exterminating a race.

No matter how much lipstick you try to put on that pig, it's STILL a pig.

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*shrug* think whatever you want, but considering they have one of the best social movements in the region and a lot of the people depend on them for help for basic necessities, its no surprise why they have legitimacy.

Propaganda? So are you implying somehow that they don't help the citizens of Lebanon with basic necessities? Or is propaganda just a term you use for information that doesn't support your preconceived notions?

Hitler did alot of nice things too. He made sure all his people had cars. he made them very affordable. He also took Germany out of the depression. Everyone had jobs and their was food on every families table. He also created the Autoban. He aslo banned smoking and anything that glamorized it. Germany's health was very important to him.

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Hezbollah is in NO way comparable to Hitler.

Propaganda would be the spin you're putting on them for purchasing local support in an effort to take over a nation.

Here's your preconceived notion:

There are plenty more. The fact that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization is not in dispute. Thus, dirtbag criminals.

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Spin? You mean facts? Just because you don't like the facts presented doesn't make it spin.

And treating them like that makes a lot of poor Lebanese who depend on them for support very very unhappy.

Terrorism is a new kind of warfare. You can't get rid of organizations like Hezbollah by pretending they don't exist.

Also...considering Israel just invaded Lebanon, massacred 1,000 civilians, displaced 1,000,000 more and cluster bombed parts of the countryside, I don't think that Hezbollahs hatred for Israel is going to lose them any supporters or legitimacy in that region.

PUHLEEEZ...They want the zionists Jews gone but just arent as smart as Hitler to get the job done.


So tell me again what has Hezbollah done to help out the Jews and keep their race alive?

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They want the Jews gone from Israeli land so they can have the land, they aren't going to invade Europe to go kill Jews. Its an economic motive, not a eugenics/genocide motive.

Hell, they aren't even going to invade Israel.

What have you done to help out the Jews and keep their race alive? Omgz, you must be Hitler if you haven't done anything!

When the facts don't support the actions without spin, it's spin.

I completely agree you can't get rid of organizations like Hezbollah by pretending they don't exist. Just like you can't get rid of them by pretending they're something more than what they are.

You hunt them down and force them to surrender or fight, period. THAT will get rid of them. But there's always someone like you to present a twisted argument as to why not.

The only good terrorist is a dead one. Problem solved.

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Really? You don't think Hezbollah providing social services gives them legitimacy in the eyes of the Lebanese?

Pretending they are more than what they are?

Do they, or do they not, provide essential social services to many Lebanese civilians?

Yeah Israel tried that. Failed miserably. Next plan?

Ah. Well care to define terrorism so I can know who you want dead and who not?

Why? As I recall they murder women and children indiscriminately. And they, like Hitler want to exterminate Jews and anyone that does not support or believe in them.

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