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Old 04-10-2008, 08:49 AM
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Republic of Türkiye

Here i will write about Turkish republic. Who is interested in, can follow this thread.
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On a 100-point thermometer scale, Turkey continued to
view itself at 80 degrees, nearly 40 degrees “warmer” than
all others. 48 % of Turkish respondents felt that, on international matters, Turkey should act alone.

Marshall Fund: Transatlantic Trends


Long the most eastward player among Western powers, Turkey could well reposition itself as the most western power among a loose bloc of Eastern players.
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:10 AM
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Turkey 15th biggest economy of the world.
Datas are from IMF.

Year 2007
GDP nominal : 658.8 billion $
GDP PPP : $1.026 trillion $
http://www.turkstat.gov.tr/PreHaberB...eri.do?id=1949
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey#cite_note-2

Some countries in our pivotal region.

Iran 2007

GDP nominal: $294 billion
GDP PPP: $752 billion
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/...PPGDP&grp=0&a=


Egypt 2007

GDP nominal: $127 Billion
GDP PPP: $403 Billion
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/...PPGDP&grp=0&a=

Saudi-Arabia 2007
GDP nominal: $376 Billion
GDP PPP: $564 Billion
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/...PPGDP&grp=0&a=


Syria 2007

GDP nominal: $37 Billion
GDP PPP: $87 Billion
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/...PPGDP&grp=0&a=
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On a 100-point thermometer scale, Turkey continued to
view itself at 80 degrees, nearly 40 degrees “warmer” than
all others. 48 % of Turkish respondents felt that, on international matters, Turkey should act alone.

Marshall Fund: Transatlantic Trends


Long the most eastward player among Western powers, Turkey could well reposition itself as the most western power among a loose bloc of Eastern players.
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Old 04-10-2008, 10:06 PM
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You back on your world domination kick?
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Surprising to know Iran has the 16th biggest economy in the world..

But i guess they rank pretty low in the UN human development Index.
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Spammer.

Having said that, I quite liked Turkey. People were very friendly and there are great sites.

Too many Australians though...
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Nothing new here, carry on canavar.
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I hate to be a stickler for SENSE and relevance but what exactly is your point..................
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Old 04-12-2008, 02:33 PM
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Spammer.

Having said that, I quite liked Turkey. People were very friendly and there are great sites.

Too many Australians though...
The Aussies are invading Turkey?
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I hate to be a stickler for SENSE and relevance but what exactly is your point..................
Canavar is our resident Turkish ultra-freaked-out Nazi Nationalist. Been here off and on for years. He's the Joseph Goebbels of Turkey.

It would be to that Trobinett is referring.
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I hate to be a stickler for SENSE and relevance but what exactly is your point..................
My point is that i will concentrate my writing habit (which evolves in regular cycles) in this thread. From a theoretical perspective this thread will be spam, as i can foresee, that there will be post by post without any interaction with other users. But i do anyway do not interact much with people here. It's just some chosen ones (if i like or not ) i can count on one hand.

The other point is, that Turkey is a country sitting on one of the most valuable real assets in this world and is (you will recognize this in the proceeding thread) a country where is big dynamics from within. Not imposed.
This dynamic coupled with the prerequisite (economy, soft-power, military, trade etc) of this republic is predetermined to influence actions beyond its boarders. If you agree or ideologically influenced do not agree does not matter, Turkey is one of those countries worth to watch. I do not mean this solely from a foreign politics perspective but also from inner politics.

Finished saying that, it is normal that there will be posted some basic data. Nothing big, just to make possible a classification in relation to the pivotal region which consists either of a region where others put Turkey in, or where the constituted strategic outreach of this republic is. But i intend not to make this thread a comparison thread, but comparisons are unavoidable on some data.
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On a 100-point thermometer scale, Turkey continued to
view itself at 80 degrees, nearly 40 degrees “warmer” than
all others. 48 % of Turkish respondents felt that, on international matters, Turkey should act alone.

Marshall Fund: Transatlantic Trends


Long the most eastward player among Western powers, Turkey could well reposition itself as the most western power among a loose bloc of Eastern players.
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My point is that i will concentrate my writing habit (which evolves in regular cycles) in this thread. From a theoretical perspective this thread will be spam, as i can foresee, that there will be post by post without any interaction with other users. But i do anyway do not interact much with people here. It's just some chosen ones (if i like or not ) i can count on one hand.

The other point is, that Turkey is a country sitting on one of the most valuable real assets in this world and is (you will recognize this in the proceeding thread) a country where is big dynamics from within. Not imposed.
This dynamic coupled with the prerequisite (economy, soft-power, military, trade etc) of this republic is predetermined to influence actions beyond its boarders. If you agree or ideologically influenced do not agree does not matter, Turkey is one of those countries worth to watch. I do not mean this solely from a foreign politics perspective but also from inner politics.

Finished saying that, it is normal that there will be posted some basic data. Nothing big, just to make possible a classification in relation to the pivotal region which consists either of a region where others put Turkey in, or where the constituted strategic outreach of this republic is. But i intend not to make this thread a comparison thread, but comparisons are unavoidable on some data.
Where do you live in Turkey?
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When i am in Turkey (most of the year) i live in Gaziantep, which is trade hub to Syria and Iraq and a major industrial and agricultural factor within Turkey.
Originally known as Antep, the title Gazi (meaning victorious/veteran/heroic in Turkish) was added to the province's and the provincial capital's name in 1921, due to its population's extraordinary courage during the Turkish War of Independence when French troops tried to occupy south-east Turkey.
Meaning my ancestors kicked French out into today's Syria without Ataturk's liberation army which on the other hand kicked all occupiers of Anatolia out after collapse of Ottoman Empire.
Unlike Germans, my ancestors did not let occupiers slip over our women and mothers and live as none-rulers.


a structure of this thread. The list is not final and no linear strategy for courses of writing. Just a list what might be written here regularly or irregularity be it in this forum or another forum where such a thread might belong better into.


Foreign Policy:
a)
Interaction with "classical" allies
1. USA
2. EU
= NATO, EU-Membership

Interaction with pivotal region
1. Mid-East
2. -stans of Central Asia
3. Mediterranean
4. Balkan
5. Black Sea
6. Caucasus
7. North-Africa

Interaction with historical "classical" none-ally powers
1. Heavyweights within SCO

b)
enforce interests to our predefined strategic outreach

c)
Military and economical strategy and build-up so it is ensured we do not have to compel another arrangement to point c)

Inner politics:

a) Institutions
1. Army
2. Parties
2.1 strategies, goals of parties
3. judiciary
4. government
5. presidency
6. interaction between institutions

b) society
1. trends in society, statistical trend based on election history of ideology of population (right, left etc)
2. polls to different things including a) Institutions
3. interesting things not related to politics (culture etc)

Economy

1. growth
2. industrialization
3. budget
4. foreign trade
....
....
....
....

Environment

a) water management
b) water trade
c) infrastructure for water utilization in foreign policy
d) afforestation


Military
(none inner-politics related)
....
....
....
....
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On a 100-point thermometer scale, Turkey continued to
view itself at 80 degrees, nearly 40 degrees “warmer” than
all others. 48 % of Turkish respondents felt that, on international matters, Turkey should act alone.

Marshall Fund: Transatlantic Trends


Long the most eastward player among Western powers, Turkey could well reposition itself as the most western power among a loose bloc of Eastern players.

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Foreign Policy:
a)
Interaction with "classical" allies
1. USA
2. EU
= NATO, EU-Membership

Interaction with pivotal region
1. Mid-East
2. -stans of Central Asia
3. Mediterranean
4. Balkan
5. Black Sea
6. Caucasus
7. North-Africa

Interaction with historical "classical" none-ally powers
1. Heavyweights within SCO

b)
enforce interests to our predefined strategic outreach

c)
Military and economical strategy and build-up so it is ensured we do not have to compel another arrangement to point c)

Inner politics:
a) Institutions
1. Army
2. Parties
2.1 strategies, goals of parties
3. judiciary
4. government
5. presidency
6. interaction between institutions

b) society
1. trends in society, statistical trend based on election history of ideology of population (right, left etc)
2. polls to different things including a) Institutions
3. interesting things not related to politics (culture etc)

Economy
1. growth
2. industrialization
3. budget
4. foreign trade
....
....
....
....

Environment
a) water management
b) water trade
c) infrastructure for water utilization in foreign policy
d) afforestation


Military (none inner-politics related)
....
....
....
....
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The Aussies are invading Turkey?
I backpacked through Europe after college. There were about a billion Aussies in Turkey, I swear. Nice people, but "G'day mate!" isn't the most common phrase I want to hear at the Aya Sofia.
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Old 04-14-2008, 08:32 PM
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@ReillyT
When i am in Turkey (most of the year) i live in Gaziantep, which is trade hub to Syria and Iraq and a major industrial and agricultural factor within Turkey.
Originally known as Antep, the title Gazi (meaning victorious/veteran/heroic in Turkish) was added to the province's and the provincial capital's name in 1921, due to its population's extraordinary courage during the Turkish War of Independence when French troops tried to occupy south-east Turkey.
Meaning my ancestors kicked French out into today's Syria without Ataturk's liberation army which on the other hand kicked all occupiers of Anatolia out after collapse of Ottoman Empire.
Unlike Germans, my ancestors did not let occupiers slip over our women and mothers and live as none-rulers.


a structure of this thread. The list is not final and no linear strategy for courses of writing. Just a list what might be written here regularly or irregularity be it in this forum or another forum where such a thread might belong better into.


Foreign Policy:
a)
Interaction with "classical" allies
1. USA
2. EU
= NATO, EU-Membership

Interaction with pivotal region
1. Mid-East
2. -stans of Central Asia
3. Mediterranean
4. Balkan
5. Black Sea
6. Caucasus
7. North-Africa

Interaction with historical "classical" none-ally powers
1. Heavyweights within SCO

b)
enforce interests to our predefined strategic outreach

c)
Military and economical strategy and build-up so it is ensured we do not have to compel another arrangement to point c)

Inner politics:

a) Institutions
1. Army
2. Parties
2.1 strategies, goals of parties
3. judiciary
4. government
5. presidency
6. interaction between institutions

b) society
1. trends in society, statistical trend based on election history of ideology of population (right, left etc)
2. polls to different things including a) Institutions
3. interesting things not related to politics (culture etc)

Economy

1. growth
2. industrialization
3. budget
4. foreign trade
....
....
....
....

Environment

a) water management
b) water trade
c) infrastructure for water utilization in foreign policy
d) afforestation


Military
(none inner-politics related)
....
....
....
....
Big deal. Who HASN'T kicked France's ass?
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