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Old 04-14-2010, 03:08 PM
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Two articles, one by Christopher Booker describing the impending bankruptcy of the UK and another by Victor Davis Hanson describing the catatonic walk over the financial edge by California are united by a single theme: the power of denial.

Britain is broke, says Booker, but none of its major parties want to admit it because it would force them to run on a platform of belt-tightening, welfare cutbacks and sacrifice. But since a public long conditioned to hearing comforting lies would never accept the truth, nothing will be mentioned until the final smash. Until then the voters will be beguiled with soap opera causes, celebrity news and public-relations sleight of hand.

Until recently the difference between the First and Third Worlds was a that the Western future was real. The Western tomorrow was a definite quantity; loans would mature at a certain date, elections would be held at scheduled times and the pension check would arrive in the mail every 15th and 30th of the month. By contrast the Third World timescale had only the present. Tomorrow was ink on a calendar. Only things you could touch, take or use now were real. Checks in the future were as unreal as rocket ships and rayguns.

What a whole generation of Western political leaders have done is abolish the future. Comprehensively and perhaps irretrievably. And since that hasn’t happened in two generations, very few can even come to terms with it. Victor Davis Hanson describes the bewilderment of Californians who find that, for the first time in living memory, tomorrow isn’t coming. It’s so absurd people treat the fact with disbelief. People continue to act rich even though they’re poor. They live as if that check will arrive tomorrow even though no one can give a reason why it should.
Are we a nation in denial?
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Are we a nation in denial?

Yes.
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No no no.
10,000 times no.

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Californians are beginning to wake up, finally. Some liberals running for office are beginning to sound like conservatives.
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Today is yesterday's tomorrow, that people have been predicting for ages. The bill is due and being presented.


It is interesting how folks are responding to it.
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Boosh is not president anymore!
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The entire nation isn't in denial. Just the Republican half. They deny science. They are anti education. They endlessly tear down the best president we have had in generations.

Of course, they believe they have reason for that:
He's black
He too smart
He has too much education
He uses words I don't know so that makes him arrogant
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Californians are beginning to wake up, finally. Some liberals running for office are beginning to sound like conservatives.
Im tired of people sounding like something rather than actually being something.
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Quote: Originally Posted by rdean View Post
The entire nation isn't in denial. Just the Republican half. They deny science. They are anti education. They endlessly tear down the best president we have had in generations.

Of course, they believe they have reason for that:
He's black
He too smart
He has too much education
He uses words I don't know so that makes him arrogant
I think the question has been answered thoroughly right here, though I doubt it was in the way that rdean intended to.
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Quote: Originally Posted by rdean View Post
The entire nation isn't in denial. Just the Republican half. They deny science. They are anti education. They endlessly tear down the best president we have had in generations.

Of course, they believe they have reason for that:
He's black
He too smart
He has too much education
He uses words I don't know so that makes him arrogant
Obsessive Delusional Heterodoxy Disorder (ODHD)
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Most people have an aptitude for teamwork and instinctively know when constructive discussion and even new ideas are both welcome and socially advantageous. But some are not so fortunate. They live in a state of paranoid fear and dismiss conventional wisdom on most issues, often leading to obsessional interest in erudite subjects. In synthesis they turn reality on its head, never believing anything emanating from respected mainstream sources.
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There are alot of people in the nation in denial. The bottom has dropped and alot of people arent noticing the bulldozers pushing us into the hole yet. But they will.

We've built a society on dishonesty. We've been living in illusions for decades. And most have not even contemplated what's coming.
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