former astronaut speaks out on global warming

When you reply to someone, make sure you click 'Quote' so that they know you are responding to their post. Based on the content of your post, I will assume that you were attempting to reply to me.

First off, why do you think I'm a 'mythical' physicist? I am, in fact, a Physicist with the degrees to prove it. You, on the other hand, just have a passing knowledge of the subject with no basis for understanding. You suffer from what is known as 'Arrogance from Ignorance'. In other words, you have a little bit of knowledge which has made you arrogant, yet you are completely ignorant of the subject. No matter. I have seen this many times in my life. You are certainly not the first.

There is a lot of information that the planet is cooling, but since you would rather try to prove your point first and then look at the data later, you don't see it. Many ignorant people do this, even some degreed scientists, so don't feel too bad. As we say in the business, "In God We Trust, all others bring data." I would recommend you look at the data first, but since that is not possible for an 'old rock' like you, I'll merely try to educate the young so that they don't make the same mistakes as you have made.

Global cooling articles:

January 2008 - 4 sources say “globally cooler” in the past 12 months « Watts Up With That?
Global Cooling? [1998-2005 data shows cooling trend]
World Climate Report » The Coming Global Cooling?

I enjoyed the link you posted:

Venus & Mars

It's a great history lesson. Everyone who is interested in Science should read it. However, it doesn't support anything you've said. As I said, it is merely a history lesson concerning the study of atmospheres of other planets.

Again, I realize there is no hope for you understanding the data since you have an agenda (or in your case, a religion) that you have chosen to follow, but perhaps people who are younger and/or more open-minded will be more open-minded to the Scientific Method.

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Have a look at the scientific consensus on the topic. Consensus I wrote, that doesn't mean no objectors. In fact I'd be worried about a total acceptance of the cause of the phenomenon because I'd be smelling a damn big rat.

Now, where are your objections located?

Ideology? Religion? Just don't like all those liberal scientists? Scared?

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The best foot goes forward.

Fact is D., that Al Gore stated that the "Consensus was in...Man is the cause of global warming." we're just saying that it's still up for debate, and the consensus isn't in. More and more scientists are switching sides, and stepping forward that there is faulty data.

The objections are clear: Look at the data. The problem is that people come to a conclusion and attempt to force any new data to conform to their conclusion while criticizing those who have valid objections. That's just what you're doing. Try to be a little more open-minded next time.

YOU'RE QUOTING FREEREPUBLIC!!!

Give it a rest. I'm quoting data. Those were just the 3 links that came up in a google search. Look at the data, not the religion.

Here's some data for you, kid...we haven't had a frost in five years. Before that, we had one on average every year.

Using your critieria...we've had record snowfalls the last 2 years where I live. Sooo....where does that put us Ravi????

Anthony Watts is a weather presenter for KPAY-AM radio, listed as meteorologist by the radio station[1] but listed as a retired Television Seal Holder (not as a meteorologist) by the American Meteorological Society.[2] In 2007, Watts founded SurfaceStations.org, a website devoted to photographing and documenting the quality of weather stations. [3]

Contents [hide]
1 Career
2 SurfaceStations.org
3 View on Global Warming
4 References
5 External links



[edit] Career
Watts became a television weatherman in 1987 when he joined KHSL-TV, a CBS affiliate based in Chico, California. After 17 years working at KHSL, he was replaced by Kris Kuyper [4] in 2004. He then became the radio weatherman for KPAY-AM, a Fox News affiliate also based in Chico, California. Watts also operates a company called ItWorks[5] which makes weather graphics systems for use on television broadcasts.


[edit] SurfaceStations.org
In 2007 Watts launched the 'Surface Stations' project, whose mission is "Via collaboration, creation of a publicly available photographic database of weather stations and weather station metadata."[6] The project relies on volunteers to gather the data. There are no qualification requirements.[7]

The project has received moral support from Roger A. Pielke and Stephen McIntyre. Pielke described the effort as filling "a very important need for the climate science community".[8] Watts is a regular contributor to McIntyre's website, Climate Audit where he posts some pictures of particularly poorly sited stations. Jay Lawrimore, chief of the climate monitoring branch of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration's National Climatic Data Center said "I think any effort to better understand the observation system that's used to collect data and analyze it is helpful."[9]


[edit] View on Global Warming
Watts has stated that he had "at one time been fully engaged in the belief that CO2 was indeed the root cause of the global warming problem" but "later changed my thinking when I learned more about the science involved and found it to be lacking."[10] He established the blog "Watts Up With That?"[11] to popularise his views on global warming and the controversy around the science.


Anthony Watts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is this what you call a scientist? That really calls your credentials into question.

i always run my choice of scientists past a millwright to make sure i'm making the right choices.

What about your credentials..rockhead...what's your credentials??? I bet Watts are better...

This is why I never give out my sources to you. All you can do is attack them. I've stated that before rockhead. You never read what is said, but attack the source because it doesn't agree with you. You are arrogant in ingnorance...by the way, I did notice you didn't refute that.....hmm.

i always run my choice of scientists past a millwright to make sure i'm making the right choices.

if there's no millwright handy, i look for a real estate agent.

January 2008 - 4 sources say “globally cooler” in the past 12 months « Watts Up With That?

OK, X, I looked at this site. The GISS graph from 1880 to Jan08 gives lie to your cooling scenerio. The low point of the Jan08 is higher than any point before 1920. Not only that, but 2008 was a solar minimum, and also a strong La Nina of exceptional duration. Yet it still tied 2001 as the eighth warmest year on record. In fact, 11 of the warmest years on record have occurred in the last 13 years. How does that translate to a cooling trend?