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Rep Power: 1 | | | Hemp, a clean Renewable fuel source Chapter 9: Clean Renewable Fuel Farming only 6% of the continental U.S. with biomass would provide all of America’s oil and gas energy needs, thus ending our dependence on fossil fuels. Hemp is the number one net biomass source on Earth: capable of producing 10 tons per acre in four months.
THIS from WIKI: [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp] The decision of the United States Congress to pass the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act was based in part on testimony derived from articles in newspapers owned by William Randolph Hearst, who had significant financial interests in the timber industry, which manufactured his newsprint. The background material also included that from 1880 to 1933 the hemp grown in the United States had declined from 15,000 to 1,200 acres (4.9 km²), and that the price of line hemp had dropped from $12.50 per pound in 1914 to $9.00 per pound in 1933.[19][20] In 1935, however, hemp would also make a significant rebound.[20] Hearst began a campaign against hemp, and published stories in his newspapers associating hemp with marijuana[21] and attacking marijuana usage.[22] As a result of the act, the production and use of hemp was discontinued.
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Rep Power: 11 | | | i wasnt even aware that hemp had such a high cellulose content. thanks for pointing this out
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Rep Power: 1 | | | There's so much more to know, too... Quote:
Originally Posted by busara i wasnt even aware that hemp had such a high cellulose content. thanks for pointing this out | I couldn't believe the strength of the fibers, wow! If you see Hemp Revolution, though it's a bit wacky here and there, it'll likely surprise you.
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Rep Power: 65 | | | I find it amazing that we aren't allowed to harvest our forests, but people think it's okay to mow them down, plant pot, and harvest that.
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Originally Posted by AllieBaba I find it amazing that we aren't allowed to harvest our forests, but people think it's okay to mow them down, plant pot, and harvest that. | Not where I'm at.
I wonder what percentage of the land would we really need? We had some 8,000 hemp plantations here at one time. Before Hearst did his thing. I wonder what freaks would rather pepper the country with Nuclear plants... | 
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Originally Posted by AllieBaba I find it amazing that we aren't allowed to harvest our forests, but people think it's okay to mow them down, plant pot, and harvest that. | pot and hemp arent the same. and where was the suggestion to cut down all the forests for hemp? it actually can be used as a replacement for lumber in many cases. Hemp Farmers sue DEA for right to grow industrial hemp - CNN.com
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Rep Power: 1 | | | But a weaker fiber by far... Quote:
Originally Posted by AllieBaba I believe trees have a higher cellulose content... | and much less renewable--at least quickly--resource. | 
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Originally Posted by busara | Checkin' that out!
And, thanks, everyone thinks we'd just have fields of pot everywhere for the smoking. lol
~Also, damn right it can replace lumber and has even been innovated recently into some new building material called, I believe, Isochanvre; it's foreign, naturally. A sort of cement replacement, more Green, reportedly significantly stronger.
Yep, here's a link on it: http://www.azom.com/details.asp?ArticleID=2040
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07-09-2008, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by matty Not where I'm at.
I wonder what percentage of the land would we really need? We had some 8,000 hemp plantations here at one time. Before Hearst did his thing. I wonder what freaks would rather pepper the country with Nuclear plants... | it would be impossible to build as many nuclear plants as mccain would like. the plants being built in europe are experiencing large delays due to supply and labor shortages. and we'll be able to build 45 by 2030 (and 100 at some point after)? not to mention the problems and hazards of disposing of the waste. my jaw dropped when he said that.
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Originally Posted by AllieBaba I find it amazing that we aren't allowed to harvest our forests, but people think it's okay to mow them down, plant pot, and harvest that. | You sound just like the liberals whining about oil refineries hurting the environment. No one said forests had to be cut down anyway. You don't need to clear forests to grow marijuana. The shit will grow in your backyard grass as long as you provide it enough light and water. Contrary to some people's beliefs, marijuana will grow almost in spite of itself.
Here's an AWESOME alternative to fossil fuels and petrochemicals, and you find anything you can to complain about. Figures.
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Rep Power: 1 | | | Talk about spooky politics... Quote:
Originally Posted by busara it would be impossible to build as many nuclear plants as mccain would like. the plants being built in europe are experiencing large delays due to supply and labor shortages. and we'll be able to build 45 by 2030 (and 100 at some point after)? not to mention the problems and hazards of disposing of the waste. my jaw dropped when he said that. | It's getting hairy over here. Bioweapons plants, too.
You've thrown me back into looking at the Nuk plants, though...gonna go look around. | 
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Rep Power: 106 | | | I've been an advocate of hemp usage for a long time now. It can literally replace many different industries in this country, and that's the main reason why it's illegal for any usage, let alone smoking.
The lobby power of corporate America would never allow for Congress to legalize hemp for productive usage. It's pretty sad, really.
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