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Old 07-24-2008, 12:12 AM
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That is just a bold face lie, temperatures haven't changed since 1938....
Not shocking at all that Kirk would do that now is it
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Not shocking at all that Kirk would do that now is it
Personal attacks are not convincing arguments.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:40 AM
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Personal attacks are not convincing arguments.
Neither are lies...
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Personal attacks are not convincing arguments.
sure, why don't you go make up more shit that Bush never said again. Or maybe you could Imply I said things I never said, Which is something you do ALL the time.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:43 AM
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sure, why don't you go make up more shit that Bush never said again. Or maybe you could Imply I said things I never said, Which is something you do ALL the time.
Come on Charles, be easy on him, he should be able to lie without being exposed don't you know? It's a personal attack if you expose his lies...
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:50 AM
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:54 AM
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Nice try but you were talking about artic temperatures correct?


http://junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Arctic1880-2004_2.gifArctic1880-2004_2.gif
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Old 07-24-2008, 02:07 AM
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I wonder if kirk notices how it looks to be leveling off right at the end of this graph, and how that fits into his views on the subject

Could it be there are factors at work we do not fully understand. In fact I have seem some data which suggests that things have actually cooled a bit in the last 8 to 10 years. Now how could that be, I though it would just get warmer and warmer. Could it be those mitigating factors we don't know about again. Maybe that is why people think the Doom And Gloomers are getting ahead of themselves when they talk about taking drastic measures in the name of global warming.

I favor a reasonable, level headed approach to it. I do not think we must jump out of the frying pan and into the fire(economically) to fix things. I think we have time, and can do it at a pace that will not ruin us, and send us into a depression that will make todays economy look like the good old days. Yet kirk would have you believe I am just a denier who does not even believe global warming is a problem at all.
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I'm sitting her in Portland Oregon and we're braking temperature records....












No not for being hot... We are breaking record low highs. For those that don't understand. We don't just record the highest high and the lowest low but the lowest high and the highest low. Oregon has had several lowest highs fall this year. We peaked at 69 degrees Tuesday and Wednesday this week.
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IF the Greenland Glaciers melt AND Antarctic Icecaps melt THEN the rise in oceans levels will be catastrophic BECAUSE THEIR ice is not IN the ocean, already.

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I wonder if kirk notices how it looks to be leveling off right at the end of this graph, and how that fits into his views on the subject

Could it be there are factors at work we do not fully understand. In fact I have seem some data which suggests that things have actually cooled a bit in the last 8 to 10 years. Now how could that be, I though it would just get warmer and warmer. Could it be those mitigating factors we don't know about again. Maybe that is why people think the Doom And Gloomers are getting ahead of themselves when they talk about taking drastic measures in the name of global warming.

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