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Originally Posted by Kirk  So the answer is, not within recorded history. | Recorded "climate" history that is...which hasn't been very long Kirk. There were no scientists during the Paleolithic to tell whether or not the North Pole was Ice Free...
"The climate during the Paleolithic consisted of a set of glacial and interglacial periods in which the climate periodically fluctuated between warm and cool temperatures."
Thos damn cavement, burning their fossil fuels.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic
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07-17-2008, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirk No margin of error in the pole melting.
Oh.....wait......that doesn't fit your worldview. | Just like anything that does not fit your tidy little view of this issue doesn't fit your world view?
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Originally Posted by BrianH which is only a 200 some odd years vs. billions | You still can't answer the question. |
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Originally Posted by Kirk You still can't answer the question. | Kirk,
the North Pole has not been ice free since meteorologists and climatologists have been studying it, which is within the last 100 years dumbass. Anything beyond that point you leave into history.
" There have been at least four major ice ages in the Earth's past. Outside these periods, the Earth seems to have been ice-free even in high latitudes.[citation needed]
The earliest hypothesized ice age, called the Huronian, was around 2.7 to 2.3 billion years ago during the early Proterozoic Eon." Ice age - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
These ice ages and warming periods lasted for millions of years at a time....how can you base the current global trend on humans based on the last 100 years of research...lol. You are the dumbest smart person on these boards.
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Originally Posted by BrianH Kirk,
the North Pole has not been ice free since meteorologists and climatologists have been studying it, which is within the last 100 years dumbass. Anything beyond that point you leave into history.
" There have been at least four major ice ages in the Earth's past. Outside these periods, the Earth seems to have been ice-free even in high latitudes.[citation needed]
The earliest hypothesized ice age, called the Huronian, was around 2.7 to 2.3 billion years ago during the early Proterozoic Eon." Ice age - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
These ice ages and warming periods lasted for millions of years at a time....how can you base the current global trend on humans based on the last 100 years of research...lol. You are the dumbest smart person on these boards. | Well said, but don't expect it to deter Kirk in anyway 
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Originally Posted by Charles_Main Well said, but don't expect it to deter Kirk in anyway | Oh I know, I don't expect it...I just like seeing the dog turd facts he chooses to dismiss. 
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Originally Posted by BrianH Kirk,
the North Pole has not been ice free since meteorologists and climatologists have been studying it, which is within the last 100 years dumbass. Anything beyond that point you leave into history.
" There have been at least four major ice ages in the Earth's past. Outside these periods, the Earth seems to have been ice-free even in high latitudes.[citation needed]
The earliest hypothesized ice age, called the Huronian, was around 2.7 to 2.3 billion years ago during the early Proterozoic Eon." Ice age - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
These ice ages and warming periods lasted for millions of years at a time....how can you base the current global trend on humans based on the last 100 years of research...lol. You are the dumbest smart person on these boards. | You crack me up. Ever heard of the Northwest Passage? People have been looking for an ice free pole for millenia.
The truth is it has probably been tens of thousands of years since the pole was ice free. And we have melted it in 50 years.
We also caused a hole in the ozone, but no one denies that since it does not involve oil and coal companies.  |
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Originally Posted by Kirk You crack me up. Ever heard of the Northwest Passage? People have been looking for an ice free pole for millenia.
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Holy shit people have been looking for the NW passage for millenia Wow, really. and here I thought we didn't even find north America untill 400 years ago, ok 800 if you count the vikings.
Millenia lol you are totally fucked in the head pal.
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Originally Posted by Kirk You crack me up. Ever heard of the Northwest Passage? People have been looking for an ice free pole for millenia.
The truth is it has probably been tens of thousands of years since the pole was ice free. And we have melted it in 50 years.
We also caused a hole in the ozone, but no one denies that since it does not involve oil and coal companies. | I know more of the Northwest Passage than you do bud....and since you do acknowledge that the North Pole has been ice free before (WITHOUT HUMAN HELP), why is it such as suprise that "MAY" be happening now?I bet you by winter time there's more ice at the pole.... Continue to ignore the facts dude, and continue to be "cracked up" because it really shows...
The search for the Northwest passage started in 1400s genius...which still isn't that long ago compared to the frickin billions of years the earth has been around. The Vikings first used a form of it to trade with the Inuit tribes. Then the colonial powers attempted to find a route. It wasn't successfully navigated until the early 1900s... This still proves nothing on your side. Face it, you can't prove GW is caused by humans...and you can't prove it's CO2
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Originally Posted by BrianH I know more of the Northwest Passage than you do bud....and since you do acknowledge that the North Pole has been ice free before (WITHOUT HUMAN HELP), why is it such as suprise that "MAY" be happening now?I bet you by winter time there's more ice at the pole.... Continue to ignore the facts dude, and continue to be "cracked up" because it really shows... | Kirk has now been totally discredited lol. He claims we have been searching got the NW passage for "mellinia" lol
That may be the single funniest god damn thing I have ever seen posted here
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Originally Posted by Charles_Main Kirk has now been totally discredited lol. He claims we have been searching got the NW passage for "mellinia" lol
That may be the single funniest god damn thing I have ever seen posted here | Sorry, you still cannot answer the question. |
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Originally Posted by BrianH I know more of the Northwest Passage than you do bud....and since you do acknowledge that the North Pole has been ice free before (WITHOUT HUMAN HELP), why is it such as suprise that "MAY" be happening now?I bet you by winter time there's more ice at the pole.... Continue to ignore the facts dude, and continue to be "cracked up" because it really shows...
The search for the Northwest passage started in 1400s genius...which still isn't that long ago compared to the frickin billions of years the earth has been around. The Vikings first used a form of it to trade with the Inuit tribes. Then the colonial powers attempted to find a route. It wasn't successfully navigated until the early 1900s... This still proves nothing on your side. Face it, you can't prove GW is caused by humans...and you can't prove it's CO2 | It is proven that CO2 causes the earth to warm. Even you cannot deny that. The question is, How much has increasing the CO2 level by one third caused the earth to warm? |
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Originally Posted by Kirk Sorry, you still cannot answer the question. | 
DEFLECTION!!!!
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Originally Posted by Kirk It is proven that CO2 causes the earth to warm. Even you cannot deny that. The question is, How much has increasing the CO2 level by one third caused the earth to warm? | Exactly, and since that has not been answered, and since there are NUMEROUS other factors at work as well...you still can't prove that CO2 is the main culprit, or that it's caused by Humans...
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