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Dangerous Chemicals in the Environment

Give the environmental movement its due!

1. If there is one positive to be said for the environmental movement, it is that they bring public awareness of dangerous chemicals in our environment. Case in point: “The Invisible Killer: Dihydrogen Monoxide”

a. Dihydrogen monoxide is colorless, odorless, tasteless, and kills uncounted thousands of people every year. Most of these deaths are caused by accidental inhalation of DHMO, but the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide do not end there.

b. Prolonged exposure to its solid form causes severe tissue damage.

c. Symptoms of DHMO ingestion can include excessive sweating and urination, and possibly a bloated feeling, nausea, vomiting and body electrolyte imbalance.

d. For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death.

e. Is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain…contributes to the "greenhouse effect."…may cause severe burns….contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape….accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals….may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes….has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

f. Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today.”
Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide!






2. The above exposes the inanity of the environmental movement. Why? How? Well, those of us who recall even our junior high school chemistry recognize dihydrogen monoxide, which follows the proper conventions for chemical nomenclature, as what is, colloquially, known as water. Environmentalism takes advantage of the fact that most folks have a limited knowledge of chemistry, and fear what they don’t understand.

a. So, collectivists- totalitarian big government agents- realize that most are susceptible to irrational fears…and, essentially, promise ‘don’t worry! We’ll take care of…protect you!” From water??


3. While not as ubiquitous nor as harmless as water….DDT served as the stepping stone that launched the movement: The movement arose from the dead in the 1960’s, with the publication of Rachel Carson’s “Silent Spring.” From that moment, progressives embraced radical environmentalism and other visions of natural utopia. Based on anecdotal evidence and dubious statistics coupled with heaping doses of paranoia, but very little science, it gave birth to the full-blown Progressive!

a. Carson’s book was dismissed in ‘Science’ magazine as a “prosecuting attorney’s impassioned plea for action,” not a book based on scientific data.
I.L.Baldwin, “Chemicals and Pests,” Science, September 28, 1962, p.1042-1043.

b. “Sixty million people have died needlessly of malaria, since the imposition of the 1972 ban on DDT, and hundreds of millions more have suffered from this debilitating disease. The majority of those affected are children.” Bring Back DDT!






4. The more one knows, the more pathetic the Environmental Movement is seen to be. But, at the same time, the words of Lord Byron, “And if I laugh at any mortal thing,
'Tis that I may not weep.”
One has to cry at how many invest these thieves of liberty, these dictators of everything we have and everything we do, with political power.

The old saying "knowledge is power" rings true. So, also, is “resist or lack of knowledge results in environmentalism.”


And no one knows it better than a demagogue like Barack Obama.
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"Would you like to sign our petition to ban Di-Hydrogen Monoxide?"

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Give the environmental movement its due!

1. If there is one positive to be said for the environmental movement, it is that they bring public awareness of dangerous chemicals in our environment. Case in point: “The Invisible Killer: Dihydrogen Monoxide”

a. Dihydrogen monoxide is colorless, odorless, tasteless, and kills uncounted thousands of people every year. Most of these deaths are caused by accidental inhalation of DHMO, but the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide do not end there.

b. Prolonged exposure to its solid form causes severe tissue damage.

c. Symptoms of DHMO ingestion can include excessive sweating and urination, and possibly a bloated feeling, nausea, vomiting and body electrolyte imbalance.

d. For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death.

e. Is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain…contributes to the "greenhouse effect."…may cause severe burns….contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape….accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals….may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes….has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

f. Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today.”
Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide!






2. The above exposes the inanity of the environmental movement. Why? How? Well, those of us who recall even our junior high school chemistry recognize dihydrogen monoxide, which follows the proper conventions for chemical nomenclature, as what is, colloquially, known as water. Environmentalism takes advantage of the fact that most folks have a limited knowledge of chemistry, and fear what they don’t understand.

a. So, collectivists- totalitarian big government agents- realize that most are susceptible to irrational fears…and, essentially, promise ‘don’t worry! We’ll take care of…protect you!” From water??


3. While not as ubiquitous nor as harmless as water….DDT served as the stepping stone that launched the movement: The movement arose from the dead in the 1960’s, with the publication of Rachel Carson’s “Silent Spring.” From that moment, progressives embraced radical environmentalism and other visions of natural utopia. Based on anecdotal evidence and dubious statistics coupled with heaping doses of paranoia, but very little science, it gave birth to the full-blown Progressive!

a. Carson’s book was dismissed in ‘Science’ magazine as a “prosecuting attorney’s impassioned plea for action,” not a book based on scientific data.
I.L.Baldwin, “Chemicals and Pests,” Science, September 28, 1962, p.1042-1043.

b. “Sixty million people have died needlessly of malaria, since the imposition of the 1972 ban on DDT, and hundreds of millions more have suffered from this debilitating disease. The majority of those affected are children.” Bring Back DDT!






4. The more one knows, the more pathetic the Environmental Movement is seen to be. But, at the same time, the words of Lord Byron, “And if I laugh at any mortal thing,
'Tis that I may not weep.”
One has to cry at how many invest these thieves of liberty, these dictators of everything we have and everything we do, with political power.

The old saying "knowledge is power" rings true. So, also, is “resist or lack of knowledge results in environmentalism.”


And no one knows it better than a demagogue like Barack Obama.



why does that OP sound suspiciously like the overwraught and exaggerated conclusions of so many supposedly serious papers blaming CAGW for every bad thing under the sun?
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Fucking dumb. Exactly what one would expect from the source.
Just like everyone who signed that petition huh?
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Fucking dumb. Exactly what one would expect from the source.


Oooops!

A case of Voluntary Tourette's!!!!


A sure sign that I hit he nail on your head.

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Since we are being overly general I feel chemical pollution regulation is another issue where Republicans find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of inaction.

Along with the hyprocracy of wanting small government then creating the Patriot Homeland Security Department or using John Ashcroft to impose religous views on Oregon NIMBY costs you all votes.

NIMBY? Well if coal power was so great Chesterfield would be fighting for a coal plant to be relocated there.

Oddly HUGE industries are relegated to the ghettos of East St Louis....because Democrats there love em? No, because the powers that be here want them down wind and down stream whenever possible because of.....some pointless fear of chemicals????? No, because of the reality of chemicals.

I'm not an environut, right now I'm taking a break from working on the 68 coupe and my daily driver LSC. But I do thank the enviromentalists for banning lead in gas and forcing dirty coal out of folk's home heaters.
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Talk about irony.
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Bring back DDT?

Debatable, but I will remind everybody that we can talk about the number of deaths caused by malaria all we want, but while we do so the human population continues to grow at an exponential rate, and will continue to do so until it can no longer be sustained. I don't know that the existence of an Environmental movement or lack thereof will have much to do with it. Perhaps that is the OP's point, or at least partially so.
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Bring back DDT?
DDT never went away, so one wonders what they're babbling about.

The "DDT is harmless" idiocy is just another religious mantra of the extreme-right wing political cult. In general, they are all required to believe and loudly state that:

1. Global warming is a hoax.
2. DDT is harmless.
3. Ozone depletion is a hoax.
4. Air and water pollution regulations are a socialist plot.
5. The media is liberal.
6. The polls are all rigged, and Romney is ahead. (oops)

... and the list goes on. No need to humor them. Just mock them every time they spout any of their cult mantras.

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And you can add asbestos to the list that the 'Conservatives' would wish on us. There are so many compounds that they knew would cause a certain amount to die, and shorten the lives of many others. But if it was for a dollar in their hands, who gives a damn about some drone working in a mine or factory, or downwind, or downstream from either.

That was the attitude then, and is for many now. They knew of the dangers of asbestos in 1900. Here is a recent headline;

Asbestos' death toll climbs in scenic Montana town as EPA struggles with vast cleanup effort


Published May 24, 2010

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Read more: Asbestos' death toll climbs in scenic Montana town as EPA struggles with vast cleanup effort | Fox News
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And you can add asbestos to the list that the 'Conservatives' would wish on us. There are so many compounds that they knew would cause a certain amount to die, and shorten the lives of many others. But if it was for a dollar in their hands, who gives a damn about some drone working in a mine or factory, or downwind, or downstream from either.

That was the attitude then, and is for many now. They knew of the dangers of asbestos in 1900. Here is a recent headline;

Asbestos' death toll climbs in scenic Montana town as EPA struggles with vast cleanup effort


Published May 24, 2010

Associated Press


Read more: Asbestos' death toll climbs in scenic Montana town as EPA struggles with vast cleanup effort | Fox News


Rocks....can't tell you the inspiration that you provide!!!

Associated Press????


I'm going to write an OP exposing the 'thinking' behind media support of all sorts of pseud0-science and the wackos that proclaim same.


Hope you'll read it....and comment.
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Bring back DDT?
DDT never went away, so one wonders what they're babbling about.

The "DDT is harmless" idiocy is just another religious mantra of the extreme-right wing political cult. In general, they are all required to believe and loudly state that:

1. Global warming is a hoax.
2. DDT is harmless.
3. Ozone depletion is a hoax.
4. Air and water pollution regulations are a socialist plot.
5. The media is liberal.
6. The polls are all rigged, and Romney is ahead. (oops)

... and the list goes on. No need to humor them. Just mock them every time they spout any of their cult mantras.


OMG! You still believe that???
Once brain-dead, seems you remain so.



1. . “…concerns about the impact of DDT (dichloro-diphenyl-trichloro-ethane) and its derivates on human health, in spite of the fact that DDT has been used widely for seven decades and no properly replicated and confirmed study has found any specific human health harm. Given the enormous and proven public health benefits arising from the use of DDT in disease control,… high levels of human exposure to DDT among those living in sprayed houses but presented no evidence of actual human harm arising from that exposure….Where DDT has been used in malaria control over many decades, populations have grown and health outcomes have improved.” PMC - NCBI

2. . On June 14, 1972, 30 years ago this week, the EPA banned DDT despite considerable evidence of its safety offered in seven months of agency hearings. After listening to that testimony, the EPA's own administrative law judge declared, "DDT is not a carcinogenic hazard to man...DDT is not a mutagenic or teratogenic hazard to man...The use of DDT under the regulations involved here [does] not have a deleterious effect on freshwater fish, estuarine organisms, wild birds or other wildlife." Today environmental activists celebrate the EPA's DDT ban as their first great victory. Silent Spring at 40 - Reason.com



So....which appellation do you prefer? "Reliable Democrat Voter," or the more current, "Low Information Voter"

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And you can add asbestos to the list that the 'Conservatives' would wish on us. There are so many compounds that they knew would cause a certain amount to die, and shorten the lives of many others. But if it was for a dollar in their hands, who gives a damn about some drone working in a mine or factory, or downwind, or downstream from either.

That was the attitude then, and is for many now. They knew of the dangers of asbestos in 1900. Here is a recent headline;

Asbestos' death toll climbs in scenic Montana town as EPA struggles with vast cleanup effort


Published May 24, 2010

Associated Press


Read more: Asbestos' death toll climbs in scenic Montana town as EPA struggles with vast cleanup effort | Fox News


Rocks....can't tell you the inspiration that you provide!!!

Associated Press????


I'm going to write an OP exposing the 'thinking' behind media support of all sorts of pseud0-science and the wackos that proclaim same.


Hope you'll read it....and comment.
Expose of these people as well?

ATSDR - Asbestos - Health Effects

Asbestos Exposure and Cancer Risk - National Cancer Institute

Asbestos - Hazards

PC, you are so out of touch with reality one wonders how you function from day to day.
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