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IPCC Insider Admits Climate Consensus Claim Was a Lie
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The UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change misled the press and public into believing that thousands of scientists backed its claims on manmade global warming, according to Mike Hulme, a prominent climate scientist and IPCC insider. The actual number of scientists who backed that claim was “only a few dozen experts,” he states in a paper for Progress in Physical Geography, co-authored with student Martin Mahony.
“Claims such as ‘2,500 of the world’s leading scientists have reached a consensus that human activities are having a significant influence on the climate’ are disingenuous,” the paper states unambiguously, adding that they rendered “the IPCC vulnerable to outside criticism.”
Hulme, Professor of Climate Change in the School of Environmental Sciences at the University of East Anglia—the university of Climategate fame—is the founding Director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research and one of the UK’s most prominent climate scientists. Among his many roles in the climate change establishment, Hulme was the IPCC’s co-ordinating Lead Author for its chapter on “Climate scenario development” for its Third Assessment Report and a contributing author of several other chapters.
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Well, given this paragraph, we know where these people are coming from.


IPCC Insider Admits Climate Consensus Claim Was a Lie | The Beacon

Such a deception could only have gone on as long and far as it has because of the cultural cover provided by contemporary Western elites who have embraced environmentalism as the new secular religion. This development and its implications are examined in detail in the Independent Institute’s award-winning, new book:
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You will toss anyone under the bus won't you? No matter who, no matter how well connected, no matter how deep into the elite it was.

You make shit up on this board over and over, you are a true believer, damn facts, who needs facts when you have FAITH.
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Faith? Is that what has caused the extreme reduction in volume of ice in the Arctic Ocean that is continueing even as we are posting? Is that what is causing the retreat of the glaciers worldwide? How about the present temperatures? Looks like it this year is set to tie or exceed 1998 and 2005 as the warmest on record.

Rather than pratteling on about someone's faith, present real evidence that these things are not occuring. Present evidence that the absorbtion bands of the GHGs are really not what is stated.
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Faith? Is that what has caused the extreme reduction in volume of ice in the Arctic Ocean that is continueing even as we are posting? Is that what is causing the retreat of the glaciers worldwide? How about the present temperatures? Looks like it this year is set to tie or exceed 1998 and 2005 as the warmest on record.

Rather than pratteling on about someone's faith, present real evidence that these things are not occuring. Present evidence that the absorbtion bands of the GHGs are really not what is stated.
How about you actually provide a shred of evidence that man is causing it? We already know that CO2 follows rising temperatures it does not lead them, we already know that the claim CO2 is causing it is bogus because for 12 years CO2 rose and no temperature increase occurred.

Find a new stick, find some actual evidence man is causing the warming.

By the way dumb ass you keep ignoring the fact that from the 1920's to the early 1950's the temperatures in Antarctica were higher and for a longer period of time. Why was there any ice left in the 1950's?

The Earth works in cycles. This is just another cycle, one that is no where near as dire as you and your little rat boy liars claim.

You have nothing but smoke and mirrors and specially built computer models designed by people that have not got even a fraction of the information to make a world model much less use it to make predictions out a 100 years.

You are the one with no science to back up your claims. Just lies and more lies. And as more people jump ship your little mind will likely explode once forced to accept the facts.
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OK, dumb fuck of a sarge, I have posted repeatedly the reason that the temperature leads the CO2 in the Milankovic Cycles.

CO2 lags temperature - what does it mean?

As for your claims concerning Anarctica, post your source.

Melting ice caps and glaciers are not smoke and mirrors, idiot child.
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OK, dumb fuck of a sarge, I have posted repeatedly the reason that the temperature leads the CO2 in the Milankovic Cycles.

CO2 lags temperature - what does it mean?

As for your claims concerning Anarctica, post your source.

Melting ice caps and glaciers are not smoke and mirrors, idiot child.
It was posted and referred to repeatedly a few months ago. You ignored it then I am not going to dig it up for you to ignore again. That is your ploy to ignore links and posts until they drop out of sight and then start making the claims again and demanding links you ignored the first time.

FUCK you. Your house of cards and mirrors is collapsing and you just keep ignoring it. Your FAITH won't save this. Your FAITH does not change scientific fact. Your FAITH does not change the fact that more and more insiders are coming clean or getting caught lying.
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Faith? Is that what has caused the extreme reduction in volume of ice in the Arctic Ocean that is continueing even as we are posting? Is that what is causing the retreat of the glaciers worldwide? How about the present temperatures? Looks like it this year is set to tie or exceed 1998 and 2005 as the warmest on record.

Rather than pratteling on about someone's faith, present real evidence that these things are not occuring. Present evidence that the absorbtion bands of the GHGs are really not what is stated.



Yep old fraud is a disciple at the cult of AGW.
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OK, dumb fuck of a sarge, I have posted repeatedly the reason that the temperature leads the CO2 in the Milankovic Cycles.

CO2 lags temperature - what does it mean?

As for your claims concerning Anarctica, post your source.

Melting ice caps and glaciers are not smoke and mirrors, idiot child.
It was posted and referred to repeatedly a few months ago. You ignored it then I am not going to dig it up for you to ignore again. That is your ploy to ignore links and posts until they drop out of sight and then start making the claims again and demanding links you ignored the first time.

FUCK you. Your house of cards and mirrors is collapsing and you just keep ignoring it. Your FAITH won't save this. Your FAITH does not change scientific fact. Your FAITH does not change the fact that more and more insiders are coming clean or getting caught lying.
all this man-made global warming shit he continually pushes turns chris on. that's why he posts it.
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At one time a flat earth was "settled science."

As was witchcraft and alchemy.

Settled science is a religion. If it is true, you can ask questions and check the numbers.
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You will toss anyone under the bus won't you? No matter who, no matter how well connected, no matter how deep into the elite it was.

You make shit up on this board over and over, you are a true believer, damn facts, who needs facts when you have FAITH.
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You will toss anyone under the bus won't you? No matter who, no matter how well connected, no matter how deep into the elite it was.

You make shit up on this board over and over, you are a true believer, damn facts, who needs facts when you have FAITH.
What the hell are you babbling about?
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Yes global warming is a natural cyclone of warming and cooling within our interglacial period. I used to believe that the ice age was right around to corner myself, but I've came to the conclusion that we're at least 500-1,000 years from the start of the next ice age. Also each warm period be it the med evil, roman warm period lasted at least 200-300 years or longer. This one has only lasted 100 years and I expect it to last clear to 2200-2300 before we go into another cool period.

So yes we could see some more warming...Which is to be expected in the warm phase or what some call the modern maximum. Yes some years could be cooler with small decade long grand-minimum.
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OK, dumb fuck of a sarge, I have posted repeatedly the reason that the temperature leads the CO2 in the Milankovic Cycles.

CO2 lags temperature - what does it mean?

As for your claims concerning Anarctica, post your source.

Melting ice caps and glaciers are not smoke and mirrors, idiot child.
nor are they proof you are correct or even smart
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