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Quote: Originally Posted by Chris GREAT! Although I generally favor the free market; however, oil/gas is what fuels and finances our enemies such as Venezuela, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Russia! We need this, just as we needed the clean air act to dictate to the auto companies that they needed to produce cars that ran lead free!
Gitmo closing strike against; Fuel efficiency demand thumbs up!
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Quote: Originally Posted by xsited1 You're probably thinking of diesel powered cars. The EPA has pretty much banned them for sale in the US. However, in Europe they are fine because they are considered more environmentally friendly. Funny, eh? You better back that up with some sources, because my bull shit meter is rising!
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Quote: Originally Posted by xsited1 You're probably thinking of diesel powered cars. The EPA has pretty much banned them for sale in the US. However, in Europe they are fine because they are considered more environmentally friendly. Funny, eh? You better back that up with some sources, because my bull shit meter is rising! Try Google. There are plenty of links to choose from. I'm not surprised you haven't heard of this. A local radio station host talked about this a few months ago and most of the callers were just as surprised as you. The High Mileage Secret Nobody Talks About · Gas Mileage Tips | 
01-26-2009, 07:17 PM
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That's a great idea.
Gas guzzlers embolden the terrorists. You sound like a Neoconservative. Quote: They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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The greatest security problem this country faces is our dependence on foreign oil. Every president since Jimmy Carter has ignored it. We need to drive electric cars and natural gas trucks and screw the Arabs.
does that include obamalama and the goracle?
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01-26-2009, 08:35 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Zoom-boing Does anyone else remember when cars used to get 35 mph or possibly better and that was normal? I seem to remember either a truck or suv that was getting close to 50 mph. What happened? You're probably thinking of diesel powered cars. The EPA has pretty much banned them for sale in the US. However, in Europe they are fine because they are considered more environmentally friendly. Funny, eh? OMG, I HAD one of those! My dad thought gas-converted-to-diesel was the way to go. I bought his car off him when it was 5 yrs old. I never remember the mph being all that spectacular though. Then again, I was a youth and have no idea what the mpg on it was. Blown fuel pump and a head gasket (flew off on the highway, never to be seen again) was its demise. But it was a beauty, Olds 98 Regency, royal blue, fabulous interior. Other than the diesel factor, nicest car I ever owned.
I remember other cars though. These, for example. Seems to reach fuel efficiency, big has to go. Guess the Duggars are gonna be tough out of luck. Cheap High MPG Cars: 1985
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Quote: Originally Posted by xsited1
Quote: Originally Posted by Zoom-boing Does anyone else remember when cars used to get 35 mph or possibly better and that was normal? I seem to remember either a truck or suv that was getting close to 50 mph. What happened? You're probably thinking of diesel powered cars. The EPA has pretty much banned them for sale in the US. However, in Europe they are fine because they are considered more environmentally friendly. Funny, eh? OMG, I HAD one of those! My dad thought gas-converted-to-diesel was the way to go. I bought his car off him when it was 5 yrs old. I never remember the mph being all that spectacular though. Then again, I was a youth and have no idea what the mpg on it was. Blown fuel pump and a head gasket (flew off on the highway, never to be seen again) was its demise. But it was a beauty, Olds 98 Regency, royal blue, fabulous interior. Other than the diesel factor, nicest car I ever owned.
I remember other cars though. These, for example. Seems to reach fuel efficiency, big has to go. Guess the Duggars are gonna be tough out of luck. Cheap High MPG Cars: 1985 Nice link! We'll see what Obama does. My hunch is that he'll make matters a lot worse. Let's hope I'm wrong. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by michiganFats Thank God that we are fortunate enough to have noted automotive engineer Barack Obama as President. Thank God, indeed.
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Quote: Originally Posted by michiganFats Thank God that we are fortunate enough to have noted automotive engineer Barack Obama as President. Thank God, indeed.
Our long national nightmare is finally over. You're a real dildo aren't cha chris?
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Quote: Originally Posted by michiganFats Thank God that we are fortunate enough to have noted automotive engineer Barack Obama as President. Thank God, indeed.
Our long national nightmare is finally over. You're a real dildo aren't cha chris?
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Rep Power: 3 | | | So trying to get higher fuel efficiency standards is bad now. That is very interesting so are you guys against going to another alternative fuel also. Do you like giving all your money to other countries around the world or would you rather it stay here and circulate. I hope this is all a bad joke because if you guys are serious we are indeed in trouble. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by cunclusion So trying to get higher fuel efficiency standards is bad now. That is very interesting so are you guys against going to another alternative fuel also. Do you like giving all your money to other countries around the world or would you rather it stay here and circulate. I hope this is all a bad joke because if you guys are serious we are indeed in trouble. Ethanol was suppose to help reduce our dependency on foreign oil too. How's that working out?
I agree that something needs to be done. They made cars smaller and more fuel efficient in the past but there is another price to pay for that. Smaller cars are not as safe as bigger cars.
How come the option of drilling off the coasts of the U.S. is no longer mentioned and instead, it is only about the government telling the automakers what to do? Ah, I suppose the government is making sure its getting its money's worth from The Big Three, eh?
If Obama wants to keep good on his promises, he needs to compromise.
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