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The Green River Formation, a largely vacant area of mostly federal land that covers the territory where Colorado, Utah and Wyoming come together, contains about as much recoverable oil as all the rest the world’s proven reserves combined, an auditor from the Government Accountability Office told Congress on Thursday.

The GAO testimony stressed that the federal government was in “a unique position to influence the development of oil shale” because the Green River deposits were mostly beneath federal land.




It also noted that developing the oil would pose “socioeconomic challenges,” which included bringing “a sizable influx of workers who along with their families put additional stress on local infrastructure” and “making planning for growth difficult for local governments.”

“The Green River Formation--an assemblage of over 1,000 feet of sedimentary rocks that lie beneath parts of Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming--contains the world's largest deposits of oil shale,”Anu K. Mittal, the GAO’s director of natural resources and environment said in written testimony submitted to the House Science Subcommittee on Energy and Environment.

“USGS estimates that the Green River Formation contains about 3 trillion barrels of oil, and about half of this may be recoverable, depending on available technology and economic conditions,”
GAO: Recoverable Oil in Colorado, Utah, Wyoming 'About Equal to Entire World
Green River is Shale Oil. No one wants to invest in Shale Oil as it is unprofitable. There are currently 10 different testing sites in the Green River Formation, to see if they can do it economically. So far no company has stepped up to the challenge.
This is not to be confused with Oil bearing Shale, which is completely different. Oil bearing shale is expensive but still profitable with today's prices. Oil Shale is not. In truth it is not even Oil Shale, that is a misnomer. its true name is Kerogen Shale, which is no more oil then Corn is.
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When we don't have access to conventional reserves, what good are these?
We don't hve access because of the libs and evironmental whack jobs. What exactly is your point?
How do you define an environmental wack job?



I define someone as that when they are unreasonably committed to things they think are important somehow related to nature that are in conflict with reality.

In Tombstone AR, a fire burned the all of the underbrush and wooded areas on a hill nearby which formerly was the habitat for three endangered species. The subsequent monsoons washed away the top soil and destroyed the piped springs which provide water to Tombstone.

All of the individuals of the endangered species are dead and gone, but the Environmental Whack Jobs say that the area is a protected reserve even though they were burned or drowned and the wasteland that remains cannot support the.

A wheel barrow has been cited as being over mechanized to effect repairs on the pips to the springs.

Tombstone, Water, and the Bureaucrat Standing In Between – Tenth Amendment Center

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The town currently relies on ground wells to survive, but there is an insufficient supply to protect the town in the event of more disasters. City manager George Barnes said their present situation “doesn’t allow for a building fire, a well-pump failure; it doesn’t allow for much of anything.”

At issue for the feds is the spotted owl, and other endangered species, whose habitat is in the mountains near Tombstone. Of course the fires and floods destroyed their habitat, but rules are rules, right?
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When we don't have access to conventional reserves, what good are these?
We don't hve access because of the libs and evironmental whack jobs. What exactly is your point?
Yes not wanting pollution is totally whacko
Caring more about unproven over the needs of folks today is whacko. Contrary to your beliefs, AGW is unproven. By a longshot.
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We don't hve access because of the libs and evironmental whack jobs. What exactly is your point?
Yes not wanting pollution is totally whacko
Caring more about unproven over the needs of folks today is whacko. Contrary to your beliefs, AGW is unproven. By a longshot.

If I agreed with what you're saying we'd both be wrong, but then, even head Republican, Mitt Romney, agrees with President Obama on this issue.




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"I don't speak for the scientific community, of course," Romney said at a Town Hall-type meeting in New Hampshire. "But I believe the world's getting warmer."

Romney then added, "And number two, I believe that humans contribute to that."

That's heresy in many GOP circles - and a position the other Republican candidates have not taken in public.
But the former Massachusetts governor was just getting warmed up.

The Republican front-runner said he wanted to wean the U.S. off its dependence on foreign oil by seeking alternative sources of energy - something President Obama has also called for.

Romney did not call for more oil drilling in the U.S., as Sarah Palin and other Republicans have been doing. Instead, Romney said Americans should do more to conserve energy.

"I'm told that we use almost twice as much energy per person as does a European and more like three times as much energy as does a Japanese citizen," he said. "We can do a lot better."

Romney wrapped up his remarks by calling for cooperation with other countries in combating global warming.

"We don't call it America warming, we call it global warming," he said. "And if there's going to be an effort in this, it has to be global in scope."


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The Green River Formation, a largely vacant area of mostly federal land that covers the territory where Colorado, Utah and Wyoming come together, contains about as much recoverable oil as all the rest the world’s proven reserves combined, an auditor from the Government Accountability Office told Congress on Thursday.

The GAO testimony stressed that the federal government was in “a unique position to influence the development of oil shale” because the Green River deposits were mostly beneath federal land.




It also noted that developing the oil would pose “socioeconomic challenges,” which included bringing “a sizable influx of workers who along with their families put additional stress on local infrastructure” and “making planning for growth difficult for local governments.”

“The Green River Formation--an assemblage of over 1,000 feet of sedimentary rocks that lie beneath parts of Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming--contains the world's largest deposits of oil shale,”Anu K. Mittal, the GAO’s director of natural resources and environment said in written testimony submitted to the House Science Subcommittee on Energy and Environment.

“USGS estimates that the Green River Formation contains about 3 trillion barrels of oil, and about half of this may be recoverable, depending on available technology and economic conditions,”
GAO: Recoverable Oil in Colorado, Utah, Wyoming 'About Equal to Entire World
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We don't hve access because of the libs and evironmental whack jobs. What exactly is your point?
Yes not wanting pollution is totally whacko
Pollution? Oil is as natural as wind or solar. The only pollution is in your mind.
Cancer and pneumonia are both natural.

If oil is so natural, I think you should drink a couple of pints tonight.
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We don't hve access because of the libs and evironmental whack jobs. What exactly is your point?
Yes not wanting pollution is totally whacko
Caring more about unproven over the needs of folks today is whacko. Contrary to your beliefs, AGW is unproven. By a longshot.
Annie, would you care to post something from a Scientific Society that backs your viewpoint? How about from a National Academy of Science? Perhaps you should look at what the Saudi Arabian National Academy of Science has to say on the subject.

In the meantime, here is a site from the American Institute of Physics. They are the biggest scientific society in the world, a scientific society made of of scientific societies.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

Now if you would like, I can post the positions of the American Geophysical Union, and the Geological Society of America.
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This 'oil' that is being discussed is not oil, it is coragen. It would require an enormous amount of energy and water just refine it to the oil stage. Water that is in short supply in those areas. And the pollution from the process would be enormous. A lose-lose situation for all.
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When we don't have access to conventional reserves, what good are these?
We don't hve access because of the libs and evironmental whack jobs. What exactly is your point?
How do you define an environmental wack job?
Anyone who believes Carbon dioxide is a pollutant is a whack job
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This 'oil' that is being discussed is not oil, it is coragen. It would require an enormous amount of energy and water just refine it to the oil stage. Water that is in short supply in those areas. And the pollution from the process would be enormous. A lose-lose situation for all.
That's just incoragenable.
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Yes not wanting pollution is totally whacko
Caring more about unproven over the needs of folks today is whacko. Contrary to your beliefs, AGW is unproven. By a longshot.
Annie, would you care to post something from a Scientific Society that backs your viewpoint? How about from a National Academy of Science? Perhaps you should look at what the Saudi Arabian National Academy of Science has to say on the subject.

In the meantime, here is a site from the American Institute of Physics. They are the biggest scientific society in the world, a scientific society made of of scientific societies.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

Now if you would like, I can post the positions of the American Geophysical Union, and the Geological Society of America.
Useless bull… Science is not proving something you want to prove, and working towards proving it. There is no evidence of man made climate change. Climate change is natural. And with the modernization of our societies because of the discovery of oil and use of fossil fuels we actually live in a much cleaner world than we would have without their use.
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You need "science" to get the oil.

Republicans don't believe in "science".
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Yes not wanting pollution is totally whacko
Pollution? Oil is as natural as wind or solar. The only pollution is in your mind.
Yes, it is natural...but gasoline and diesel fumes are known carcinogens.

Not a bleeding heart. I believe that we need to be doing everything that we can to decrease our dependence on foreign oil, but it's worth noting that lung cancer is a painful way to die. Just sayin'...
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You need "science" to get the oil.

Republicans don't believe in "science".
Bulletin: Liberals believe that science is only for white kids....

1. Berkeley High School is considering a controversial proposal to eliminate science labs and the five science teachers who teach them to free up more resources to help struggling students.

The proposal to put the science-lab cuts on the table was approved recently by Berkeley High's School Governance Council, a body of teachers, parents, and students who oversee a plan to change the structure of the high school to address Berkeley's dismal racial achievement gap, where white students are doing far better than the state average while black and Latino students are doing worse.
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2. This breakdown of students proves the lamentable “gap” spoken of by Berkeley commandants isn’t in enrollment, but in grades. The white kids are doing better in excess of what is acceptable — or the non-white kids are doing worse, depending on your perspective — such that the heart-warming state of equality is absent. PJ Media » Out-of-Control Multiculturalism at Berkeley High School



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