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Old 01-22-2013, 08:01 AM
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i think it's amusing that an asian uses a blonde, blue eyed avatar, and then whines about perceived racism towards asians.
OH dear god I have not seen such pwnage in a looong time. Perfect.



You're really not smart enough to understand this discussion.

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If you come from detriot and were raised poor and manage to get that score on a top college entrance test then let me tell you you are very likely SMARTER than a kid who gets a higher score and comes from a life of privledge.


why cant you people figure that out?


you go to school to learn.


They pick the smartest to learn.

The smartest people dont all have the same starting level.


"They pick the smartest to learn."

I take it you weren't picked?


Have someone explain the OP to you, and you'll see that your statement is untrue.
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i do find it amazing how no one has addressed the OP, rather just attack the messenger
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How about a look at real racism, it being Martin Luther King's birthday...

1. Many believe that a college education is a high rung on the ladder to success. Still…it’s not one of the unalienable rights, such as life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness. Yet, if the bar to college is based on ethnicity, well, that sticks in the craw of American values. Speaking of which, the progressive value, diversity, has become somewhat of a bar if the ethnicity in question is Asian.

2. As of the 2010 census, there are almost 15 million Asians in the nation, 4.8% of the population. http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/b...c2010br-11.pdf

3. If a college or university uses racially-blind methodology, Asians are overrepresented in science and math departments. California Institute of Technology (Caltech), is such, and as a result, it is 40% Asian. Office of the Registrar - California Institute of Technology

4. In “No Longer Separate, Not Yet Equal: Race and Class in Elite College Admission and Campus Life by Thomas J. Espenshade and Alexandria Walton Radford, the authors looked at college applications from 1997, when the maximum score was 1600…

a. African-American students with scores of 1100 had the same chance of getting into an elite school as white students who had a score of 1410…but Asian-Americans needed a 1550 SATscore. http://press.princeton.edu/blog/2011...sian-students/

b. Can you recognize ‘racism’?
No.

I recognize some sort of bias going on but there is insufficient information since the source seems to be quoting from a lengthier publication and several of it's link go to "page no longer found".

Racism: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

Not enough info in that bit to claim racism.


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But….when getting elected is more important than supporting America's values….this is what you get.

Thank goodness, President Barack Obama has made numerous attempts, countless speeches in an attempt to smooth the path for Asian-Americans....

...oh...wait......
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...on-probe.html: The U.S. Education Department is probing complaints that Harvard University and Princeton University discriminate against Asian-Americans in undergraduate admissions.

U.S. Department of Education Ends Inquiry into Harvard Admissions | News | The Harvard Crimson
The U.S. Department of Education has closed its investigation into alleged discrimination against Asian Americans in Harvard’s admissions policies following the withdrawal of the initial complaint, according to a department spokesperson...

...The same individual accused Princeton University’s admissions office of similar discriminatory practices, and that complaint has also been withdrawn.

But OCR’s investigation of Princeton is ongoing. Initially, the recently withdrawn complaint had been folded into a larger investigation prompted by an earlier allegation. Jian Li ’10 filed a complaint with the Department of Education in 2006 after being rejected from Princeton, according to a 2008 story in USA Today.


Feds probe alleged admission discrimination - The Daily Princetonian

Sounds like they investigate these complaints.

Your point?



If this is "real racism" what is "fake" racism?
Why don't you re-read the OP.....and focus on the court decision.
Nope. You're trying to make a case that Obama's doing nothing for so-called "real racism".

So...where's the fake racism? (PLEASE - no Sharpton moments - we all know he's a charleton and race baiter).
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i do find it amazing how no one has addressed the OP, rather just attack the messenger
You must not have read all the posts then...if you had, your amazement level would be less.
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No.

I recognize some sort of bias going on but there is insufficient information since the source seems to be quoting from a lengthier publication and several of it's link go to "page no longer found".

Racism: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

Not enough info in that bit to claim racism.




http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...on-probe.html: The U.S. Education Department is probing complaints that Harvard University and Princeton University discriminate against Asian-Americans in undergraduate admissions.

U.S. Department of Education Ends Inquiry into Harvard Admissions | News | The Harvard Crimson
The U.S. Department of Education has closed its investigation into alleged discrimination against Asian Americans in Harvard’s admissions policies following the withdrawal of the initial complaint, according to a department spokesperson...

...The same individual accused Princeton University’s admissions office of similar discriminatory practices, and that complaint has also been withdrawn.

But OCR’s investigation of Princeton is ongoing. Initially, the recently withdrawn complaint had been folded into a larger investigation prompted by an earlier allegation. Jian Li ’10 filed a complaint with the Department of Education in 2006 after being rejected from Princeton, according to a 2008 story in USA Today.


Feds probe alleged admission discrimination - The Daily Princetonian

Sounds like they investigate these complaints.

Your point?



If this is "real racism" what is "fake" racism?
Why don't you re-read the OP.....and focus on the court decision.
Nope. You're trying to make a case that Obama's doing nothing for so-called "real racism".

So...where's the fake racism? (PLEASE - no Sharpton moments - we all know he's a charleton and race baiter).
"...where's the fake racism?"
Yup....most of what the Left calls 'racism.'


Fake racism is the "Ooooo....what he said!" pretense.

Real racism is when you don't allow students into college with the same grades....based on their race,



Now, laminate this and put in your wallet for future reference:
Reality is defined by actions, not by words.


There is no racism in using a derogatory term.
Hurt feelings?
Grow up.
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Why don't you re-read the OP.....and focus on the court decision.
Nope. You're trying to make a case that Obama's doing nothing for so-called "real racism".

So...where's the fake racism? (PLEASE - no Sharpton moments - we all know he's a charleton and race baiter).
"...where's the fake racism?"
Yup....most of what the Left calls 'racism.'


Fake racism is the "Ooooo....what he said!" pretense.

Real racism is when you don't allow students into college with the same grades....based on their race,



Now, laminate this and put in your wallet for future reference:
Reality is defined by actions, not by words.


There is no racism in using a derogatory term.
Hurt feelings?
Grow up.
So Michelle Malkin was full of shit when she got upset at being called a banana?
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Nope. You're trying to make a case that Obama's doing nothing for so-called "real racism".

So...where's the fake racism? (PLEASE - no Sharpton moments - we all know he's a charleton and race baiter).
"...where's the fake racism?"
Yup....most of what the Left calls 'racism.'


Fake racism is the "Ooooo....what he said!" pretense.

Real racism is when you don't allow students into college with the same grades....based on their race,



Now, laminate this and put in your wallet for future reference:
Reality is defined by actions, not by words.


There is no racism in using a derogatory term.
Hurt feelings?
Grow up.
So Michelle Malkin was full of shit when she got upset at being called a banana?

Did you really feel that this was a response to the truth of my post?
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"...where's the fake racism?"
Yup....most of what the Left calls 'racism.'


Fake racism is the "Ooooo....what he said!" pretense.

Real racism is when you don't allow students into college with the same grades....based on their race,



Now, laminate this and put in your wallet for future reference:
Reality is defined by actions, not by words.


There is no racism in using a derogatory term.
Hurt feelings?
Grow up.
So Michelle Malkin was full of shit when she got upset at being called a banana?

Did you really feel that this was a response to the truth of my post?
Are you incapable of answering the question?
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So Michelle Malkin was full of shit when she got upset at being called a banana?

Did you really feel that this was a response to the truth of my post?
Are you incapable of answering the question?
she's asian.

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I'd like to know why anyone would think it permissible to base a prospective students admission to university, or not, on his/her ethnic background.
The primary determinant should be academic acheivement
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So Michelle Malkin was full of shit when she got upset at being called a banana?

Did you really feel that this was a response to the truth of my post?
Are you incapable of answering the question?
I'd rather explore the issue.
As follows.



1. The aim of the Left/Democrats/Liberals is to pat black folk on the head, and say 'I'm here to help you.'

2. That 'help' is keeping them in need.



3. The window dressing is to heap contumely on any who use a word deemed 'racist....'
but all one need do is look at the cities run by Left/Democrats/Liberals and see that the 'help' they are providing is along the lines of the '1984' meaning of words: the opposite.

a. Liberals set out to destroy the black family. “…national data covering decennial years from 1890 to 1920 show that blacks out-married whites despite a consistent shortage of black males due to their higher rates of mortality.” http://www.irp.wisc.edu/publications...fs/foc121e.pdf

Then, along came Left/Democrats/Liberals 'help.'




4. To hide their own role in the suppression of a black middle class, liberals promoted the myth that it was slavery alone that had produced dystopian culture.

a. The entire press corps dedicated itself to clamping down on anyone that looked askance at the dysfunctional black culture.

b. Look closely at film footage of Martin Luther King’s campaigns, and note impeccably dressed audiences in sober business clothes: middle class gatherings of married parents and intact families. Destroyed by malignant reformers.
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a. Democrats simply do not treat blacks as the equal of whites. Do you really believe they would fall apart at the mention of a word?
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Why don't you re-read the OP.....and focus on the court decision.
Nope. You're trying to make a case that Obama's doing nothing for so-called "real racism".

So...where's the fake racism? (PLEASE - no Sharpton moments - we all know he's a charleton and race baiter).
"...where's the fake racism?"
Yup....most of what the Left calls 'racism.'
Be specific please. "Most of" is kind of like "you guys".

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Fake racism is the "Ooooo....what he said!" pretense.
Such as....?

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Real racism is when you don't allow students into college with the same grades....based on their race,
So....you're saying grades and race are the only determiners of admission?

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Now, laminate this and put in your wallet for future reference:
Reality is defined by actions, not by words.
I can't laminate a piece of crap, it falls apart before I even finish the process.


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There is no racism in using a derogatory term.
Hurt feelings?
Grow up.
Really.....so Storm Front, just to use a popular example - is not racist?
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I'd like to know why anyone would think it permissible to base a prospective students admission to university, or not, on his/her ethnic background.
The primary determinant should be academic acheivement
Not necessarily.

It depends on the institution and what their goals are.
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Nope. You're trying to make a case that Obama's doing nothing for so-called "real racism".

So...where's the fake racism? (PLEASE - no Sharpton moments - we all know he's a charleton and race baiter).
"...where's the fake racism?"
Yup....most of what the Left calls 'racism.'
Be specific please. "Most of" is kind of like "you guys".



Such as....?



So....you're saying grades and race are the only determiners of admission?

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Now, laminate this and put in your wallet for future reference:
Reality is defined by actions, not by words.
I can't laminate a piece of crap, it falls apart before I even finish the process.


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There is no racism in using a derogatory term.
Hurt feelings?
Grow up.
Really.....so Storm Front, just to use a popular example - is not racist?
I think you're smarter than that.
And while I believe you understand the import of the OP, the pretense is less than honorable.


Wearing uniforms and insulting others is covered by the first amendment.


"National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, 432 U.S. 43 (1977) (also known as Smith v. Collin; sometimes referred to as the Skokie Affair), was a United States Supreme Court case dealing with freedom of assembly.
On behalf of the NSPA the ACLU challenged the injunction issued by the Circuit Court of Cook County, Illinois prohibiting marchers at the proposed Skokie rally from wearing Nazi uniforms or displaying swastikas. The ACLU was represented by civil rights attorney Burton Joseph.[1][2] The challengers argued that the injunction violated the First Amendment rights of the marchers to express themselves freely."
National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



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