Education a right ?

It's obvious that you do not value education.

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"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."

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We are being set up for Universal college diplomas paid for by the public, no matter how long a person decides to stay in school.

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Yes, I see it is an inalienable right....one that is not writen down, or forbidden by the constitution.

There are more inalienable rights than one could ever imagine or numerate....we are not limited to the 10 rights in the Bill of Rights.

AND just because it is one of our rights, does NOT MEAN that the government HAS TO provide it for us, they just do not have the power given to them, to PREVENT us or to stop us...from becoming educated.

Vernon, the Constitution protects your right to pursue an education.

The Constitution does NOT force your neighbor to provide you an education.

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The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.

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Supreme Court Justice

Education is not a right.

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This is one of the problems we face , Hard packed ignorance.

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In support of this, from the NYS Constitution:

The legislature shall provide for the maintenance and support of a system of free common schools, wherein all the children of this state may be educated.

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No person shall be denied the equal protection of the laws of this state or any subdivision thereof.

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I would say that establishes education as a right.

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Actually, you should read up on our inalienable rights....you may find ignorance looking at you in the mirror Mr. Fit....

how do i know? how dont you know?

educating oneself is probably a natural right like breathing, and happens just as naturally and plurally.

taken to the more formal constructs of a class/teacher/student environment, it is a right inherited from our freedom of speech enterprise and assembly fortified by our pursuit of happiness ethos. this escapes you?

i think people are confused about rights and entitlement to provision. those are benefits. people wield rights as if they were a valid basis to demand the government supply benefits for them. like the rhetoric behind the dems' healthcare push...

'healthcare is a right!' well, ok. you certainly couldnt ban people caring for their health. what a lengthy and tenuous bridge to demand on that basis that the government is out of step for not supplying it. the fact of the matter is that the government has the power to accomodate what you call is desireable through a number of measures. ever since the civil rights era, groups have tried to justify their causes of desirability on the same basis. their opposition would say 'healthcare's not a right!' in response. self preservation and by extension healthcare is indeed. i digress to the shitpaper thing as they wrestle with the constitution far from where it applies.

if the government wanted to weasel out of providing americans a free education, i feel we do have standing to be pissed. i would question, under this far, far fetched circumstance, why they are trying to undermine the nation and make us inferior to the rest of the developed world with that ..undesireable.. policy.

You have failed to prove that there is a right to education specifically. No amount of spinning will produce it because it is not there.
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thanks, Care. reading your response calmed me considerably. i neednt add more.

from:
Is education a civil right?


"Is education a civil right?

Technically speaking, no. However, since the famous 1954 case of Brown v. The Board of Education, it has been illegal for public schools to discriminate on the basis of race. It is also illegal for a public school district to be segregated as a result of intentional practices, such as drawing the schools’ boundaries around exclusively single race areas (this is known as de jury segregation). "



from;
Education

"Introduction

The right to education is a fundamental human right. Every individual, irrespective of race, gender, nationality, ethnic or social origin, religion or political preference, age or disability, is entitled to a free elementary education. This right is explicitly stated in the United Nations' Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR), adopted in 1948:"



It seems that while education is not a right defined by anything in US law, pursuit of education IS a right defined in US law, and if public education is available, it must be made available to all in an equal manner.

The United nations defines education as a 'human right'.

from the above link;
"Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit. …" (Article 26)"


So it appears that the argument over whether education is a "right" is based on which definition is to be used, ie: civil right vs. human right.

My opinion is that while it is not a 'civil right' in the USA, I can agree that access to education, especially equal access to education is a 'human right'.

I believe that education is a privelage in the USA that too few actually take advantage of.

Even those that believe that education is a right must recognize that noone can be forced to learn against their will.

The question of what an education must contain to be considered an education has been the subject of debate since Plato. Those that practice certain fundamental religions believe that educating their children simply means teaching them the content of their particular religious texts. Those that practice a more secular life believe that education means teaching children subjects that include the sciences, and leaving out the religious texts. Those arguments will likely continue, simply because the world is not made of a homogenous group of people. Even our nation is not a homogenous society.

I believe that we all have a responsibility to educate our children. Personally, I volunteer at the local high school to tutor students that need help. I urge everyone who has that ability to do the same. If you have an education, realize that knowledge is only 'borrowed'. To best serve your fellow humans, passing that education and knowledge on to the next generation is the right thing to do.

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So is education necessary? Or are you against education in general?

Agreed. We have no "right" that, by virtue of its existence, requires the labor or property (money) of other citizens.

I have to disagree with Rabbi's earlier premise that we have a "right to a jury trial". This is not mentioned at all in the U.S. Constitution.
"In Article 3, Section 2, the Constitution requires that all criminal trials be heard by a jury. It also specifies that the trial will be heard in the state the crime was committed. The 6th Amendment narrows the definition of the jury by requiring it to be "impartial." Finally, the 7th Amendment requires that certain federal civil trials guarantee a jury trial if the amount exceeds twenty dollars."
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Education is bought and sold. Therefore, like healthcare, it is a commodity.

States will do as they please, under the 10th. But, there is no enumerated power that I'm aware of that would allow the central government to directly mandate education for U.S. citizens, which is why many people believe the Department of Education is unconstitutional and should be abolished.

Either we believe in Limited Government, or we don't. Either we believe in upholding the U.S. Constitution, or we don't. The misuse of the Commerce Clause has all but dismantled our Federalist form of government. We have come to the point where Washington politicians like Nancy Pelosi no longer recognize ANY limits to their authority.
A statement like that should freeze the blood of all but the most staunch of leftists. It's visceral proof that these people have literally no compunctions whatsoever about the Spirit of Liberty and the vows they personally made to uphold our Constitution protecting it.

Libertarians and Republicans should be natural allies in the matter of limiting the reach of central government. This IS the make-it-or-break-it issue of our day. It transcends lesser disagreements about social issues, which should be decided in the States and only on questions which do not impede the unalienable rights of citizens.

Certainly the founders prized education, believing that only an educated populace could preserve liberty. Curious then, why they elected NOT to include mandatory education as a provision of our contract with federal government.

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