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06-11-2008, 10:22 AM
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Rep Power: 21 | | | School drops the Pledge of Allegiance PORTLAND, Ore. - The exclusion of the Pledge of Allegiance from a southwest Portland elementary school's ceremony has proved upsetting for a local mom.
Departing fifth-graders at Capitol Hill Elementary usually open their promotion ceremony with the Pledge of Allegiance but not this year.
KATU tried repeatedly to talk with Principal Pam Wilson but got no results. However, in an e-mail response to Reese's questions, she explained the pledge was removed "out of respect for the diversity of religious faiths." Local mom concerned after school drops the Pledge of Allegiance | KATU.com - Portland, Oregon | News
I didnt know the Pledge of Allegiance was a pledge to ANY religion?
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06-11-2008, 10:45 AM
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Rep Power: 164 | | | maybe we should remove the PROBLEM and start using the original pledge instead of the butchered one..
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06-11-2008, 11:27 AM
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I didnt know the Pledge of Allegiance was a pledge to ANY religion?
| In it's original form it wasn't.
The term "under God" , which is what I think some people object to, was added in the 1950's. | 
06-11-2008, 12:48 PM
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Rep Power: 164 | | | not to mention.. that it was written BY a socialist.
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06-11-2008, 04:58 PM
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Rep Power: 4 | | | A lot of schools stop saying the Pledge of Allegiance aloooong time ago. I'm surprised that this school just now stopped.
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06-11-2008, 06:38 PM
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Rep Power: 64 | | | Gosh, makes me so proud to be an Oregonian.
What a bunch of goose-stepping, bigoted, American hating POSes.
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06-11-2008, 06:41 PM
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Rep Power: 164 | | | yea.. it's the bigotted ones that want to open public education, and the frickin pledge, to more than just dogma junkies.
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.
like I said.. lets go back to the ORIGINAL version.. You know, the one where allegiance to the US does not hinge on some mythical jewish ghost.
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06-11-2008, 06:47 PM
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Rep Power: 64 | | | The schools did (for the most part) already go back to the original version.
If they eliminate it altogether, then they should call themselves private and stop taking federal dollars to operate.
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06-11-2008, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Shogun yea.. it's the bigotted ones that want to open public education, and the frickin pledge, to more than just dogma junkies.
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.
like I said.. lets go back to the ORIGINAL version.. You know, the one where allegiance to the US does not hinge on some mythical jewish ghost. | Does it bother you more that it's a ghost ... or that it's a jewish ghost? just wondering since you always make mention of that.
And just on the thread topic... the gdless libs here in NYC say the pledge... just sayin'
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06-11-2008, 06:53 PM
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06-11-2008, 06:54 PM
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Rep Power: 349 | | | I can see how that type of aversive conditioning could be effective.
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06-11-2008, 06:57 PM
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if the primary deity pushed around in the states were hindu id be poking fun at hose characters too. you can reserve your martyr complex for other threads.
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06-11-2008, 07:01 PM
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Rep Power: 64 | | | "One nation..under The Great Spirit......with liberty and justice for all."
"One nation...under the weird Hindu monkey god.....with liberty and justice for all."
Nope, they just don't sound as awesome.
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06-11-2008, 07:03 PM
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Rep Power: 164 | | | and still, not as AWESOME as the original..
Bellamy's original Pledge read, "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. America"
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06-11-2008, 07:05 PM
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Rep Power: 64 | | | I've no problem with that.
I do have a problem with federally funded schools which refuse to teach the pledge of allegience to their students because the superintendent hates America.
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