Yes? No? And Why?

I say if the state wants to do it then let them do it. It will help lower the price and it will create many new jobs for this struggling economy and in the mean time it will give us time to investigate alternative energy... It's time to stop supporting these middle eastern countries who hate us.

Black and viscous --- bound to cure blue lethargy
Sugar-plum petroleum for energy
Tightrope-balanced payments need a small reprieve
Oh, please believe we want to be
in Offshore Oil

New-found wealth sits on the shelf of yesterday
Hot-air balloon --- inflation soon will make you pay
Riggers rig and diggers dig their shallow grave
But we'll be saved and what we crave
is Offshore Oil

Prices boom in Chicago and Allentown
Ten more years to lay the fears, erase the frown
before we are all nuclear --- the better way!
Oh, let us pray: we want to stay
in Offshore Oil

Without oil, there would have been none of this:

Come and listen to a story about a man named Jed
A poor mountaineer, barely kept his family fed,
Then one day he was shootin at some food,
And up through the ground came a bubblin' crude.

Oil that is, black gold, Texas tea.

Well the first thing you know ol' Jed's a millionaire,
Kinfolk said Jed move away from there
Said Californy is the place you ought to be
So they loaded up the truck and moved to Beverly.

Hills, that is.
Swimmin pools, movie stars.

The Beverly Hillbillies!

Sung at the end of the show:

Well now its time to say good-bye to Jed and all his kin.
And they would like to thank you folks fer kindly droppin in.
You're all invited back again to this locality
To have a heapin helpin of their hospitality

Hillbilly that is. Set a spell. Take your shoes off. Y'all come back now, y'hear?

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Poor Spot! He was tired of being thought of as stupid. "I'm gonna join Mensa," he said to myself, "and then I'll be legally permitted to wear the society's insignia--a tattoo of a little map pin pushed into my flesh--and then everyone'll know that I'm not dumb at all!"
Spot Joins Mensa
by James "Kibo" Parry

Yes, To both lower the price and to lower our trade deficit and stop sending Billions to those who would hurt us.

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Charles_Main

"Whenever a man has cast a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his conduct."
Thomas Jefferson

"Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition."
Thomas Jefferson

Nope. I see no logical reason to tap our own resources to benefit a world market that will eventually crumble and leave us wondering where all of our oil reserves went. I'd rather save our oil, let the price of gas make altEnergy a necessity, and save our reserves for industries and infrastructures that cannot adapt as quickly as other areas of industry. Europe has survived on 8 dollar gallons of gas, and so will America.

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Nomdeplume-"you are just upset because I fuck all you lefties up the ass without lube."

i agree with that

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sealybobo thinks im a racist right winger. RGS thinks im a braindead liberal. I wonder which one I am?

the best view is from the middle

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

“Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich by promising to protect each from the other” Oscar Ameringer

"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. ... The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home." James Madison

I guess you enjoy a massive trade deficit, and sending billions of dollars off to nations that would love nothing more than to hurt us.

That alone IMO is more than enough reason to do everything in our power to get off foreign Oil.

Our economy is falling apart with 4 dollar gas, and you think 8 dollar gas wont hurt. the problem with your Europe comparison is that more than half the price they pay is taxes. which is not the case here, and will not be the case if gas is 8 dollars a gallon. While in Europe half the money the spend to fill their tanks goes back to their governments, Here in America most of the money we pay to fill our tanks goes into the pockets of Oil companies and foreign governments, not our governments pockets.

But believe me I will not hold my breath waiting for you to agree with me on anything, after all I am old in all.

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Charles_Main

"Whenever a man has cast a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his conduct."
Thomas Jefferson

"Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition."
Thomas Jefferson

Oh it will hurt, but it will also drive invention. Necessity is the mother of invention. If we have $8 gas, then we'll have alternativeE fuel in no time.

And by the way, how do you think drilling domestically will cut down gas prices? Do you realize that unless we nationalize oil, we're sending what we get from FL and Alaska to the world market. We might knock off a few quarters on the gallon, in 5-7 years at the soonest.

PS: Don't try to play the victim. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings when I said old people don't contribute to culture. Please forgive my brutal honesty.

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Nomdeplume-"you are just upset because I fuck all you lefties up the ass without lube."

I am more worried about sending so much money over there, than I am about lowering prices to tell you the truth.

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Charles_Main

"Whenever a man has cast a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his conduct."
Thomas Jefferson

"Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition."
Thomas Jefferson

How will drilling domestically hurt them more than removing one luxury yacht of income from the Saudi prince's salary?

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Nomdeplume-"you are just upset because I fuck all you lefties up the ass without lube."

700 billion dollars a year, according to T-boone.

It is not about hurting them, it is about helping ourselves. I don't think anyone can argue that we would be better off keeping 700 Billion a year here, instead of sending it over there.

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Charles_Main

"Whenever a man has cast a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his conduct."
Thomas Jefferson

"Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition."
Thomas Jefferson

This debate is silly, drilling is a red herring, there are 68 million acres where drilling and exploration could be going on now, but if the market price is this then this we pay. The companies know that and we buy the stuff, they make gazillions and some Americans suffer, but drilling is irrelevant. Oil needs competition and we need to cut back, end of story.

68 million acres already available...and they want more? by Julie Ann Dawson — oil, gas, polar bears | Gather

See where it comes from:

http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/st...images/map.swf

How does reducing the playing field = more competition?
Moron.

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Poor Spot! He was tired of being thought of as stupid. "I'm gonna join Mensa," he said to myself, "and then I'll be legally permitted to wear the society's insignia--a tattoo of a little map pin pushed into my flesh--and then everyone'll know that I'm not dumb at all!"
Spot Joins Mensa
by James "Kibo" Parry

Charlie, you should realize that oil is traded on a world market. The WORLD will have access to any oil we remove from our ground. We would have to nationalize oil, like Venezuela, before we see 700 billion dollars stay at home. The only ones who will truly profit from domestic drilling are the oil corporations. We are estimated to knock a few quarters off the gallon as soon as 5 years from now if we start drilling.

Please don't fall for the partisan bullshit going on in the media. Too many Americans are ignorant on oil and think that the solution is drilling our reserves dry.

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Nomdeplume-"you are just upset because I fuck all you lefties up the ass without lube."

figures you would talk about reality as if it were a young child's nursery rhyme. you live in a cloud, probably cloaked in ivory that has suffocated the oxygen to your brain.

fair enough, however, to tap our own resources would also benefit you and I. if the world market comes close to crumbling and the US is sitting on resources that we could have, but the liberal enviros won't let us, you think that will be a stable situation? no, i think it will be war. i think the oil owners know this and know it well. do you really think that places such as Saudi Arabia or Venichugochavez see the environmentals as a "benign" entity when it comes to the US "saving" it's oil?

do you?

midcan, you are silly, but entertaining. do you know what a red herring is, no not in the water, but in terms of debate? it appears you do not, because you are confusing what a red herring is. i thought you ivy league, maybe moss league.

how is this a red herring? it is not. it could be, will you allow it? do you promote that we drill this? of course the "companies" know this, why do you think they want to open drilling. because they make money, we suffer? utter bullshit and a red herring. your last sentence proves what an idiot you are:

oil needs competition and we need to cut back, END OF STORY

really.....

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