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10-28-2009, 02:31 PM
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Our juvenile justice system is a fucking crime in itself.
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10-28-2009, 03:09 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Xenophon The story is disgusting, what monsters we sometimes raise. Don't Include me in that we...
Don't even Know why you would Include yourself.
These Kids are a Products of the System...
A System I don't Agree with and that has Failed them and Generations before them.
Assume Failure on Entire Communities and Failures they will Produce.
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10-28-2009, 03:15 PM
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Rep Power: 36 | | | Wasn't that long ago something similiar happened in an upscale part of New York. There seems to be an attitude of uninvolvement in a major portion of the population of this nation. | 
10-28-2009, 03:16 PM
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Rep Power: 141 | | | And enable that behavior by making excuses for their "disadvantaged childhoods".
I work in a public high school, where criminals and the biggest troublemakers are "rewarded" for bad behavior. Cause enough trouble, and you can go to an "alternative program" where you can watch BET and have taxpayer funded pizza and ice cream parties. I kid you not.
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10-28-2009, 03:30 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Article 15
Quote: Originally Posted by tha malcontent
Quote: Originally Posted by Article 15 Sick.
Can the witnesses be prosecuted? Don't Think so... According to First Reports, anyway.
Richmond is Damn Near Third World... It's a Bad Place.
I Pity those who are Born into Areas like that.
peace... Never been, only passed through on I-95 about a bagillion times. Wrong Richmond, although the one in VA is about as bad as the one in California.... Nope, this is all about a cheap charlie gov in this state that continually screws over the scfhools, but that is the GROPINATOR for ya! There is also that illegal alien thing......
Another victim that will get re-violated in the court system.....
And I am gonna ask thiis: Where the HELL were her brothers to escort her home from the dance, or friends or something.... and yes our Richmond is a really shitty area! No it ain't safe and it isn't her fault but why would she stop and have a drink with anyone, and I hope they give these creeps lots of years for this!
This is a really upsetting thing! I hope her family will move her someplace so she doesn't have to face this in quite the same way, every damned day of her life! Be bad enough, the court stuff, without school stuff! Neighbors, and so on.... And the Hispanic community is very judgemental about this sort of thing. In some areas of Mexico they still do marrige by rape! http://www.utexas.edu/courses/stross...sMBCapture.pdf A Random Walk: January 2009
they live brutally there and they bring it here, parents to children, and there is no discipline, and no remorse......
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10-28-2009, 03:48 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by chanel And enable that behavior by making excuses for their "disadvantaged childhoods".
I work in a public high school, where criminals and the biggest troublemakers are "rewarded" for bad behavior. Cause enough trouble, and you can go to an "alternative program" where you can watch BET and have taxpayer funded pizza and ice cream parties. I kid you not. Again... The System is the Product of this...
White Liberal Politicians, and Half White ones like Barry, send their Children to Private Schools while their Constituency Rots in the Housing Projects and Public Schooling System with Endless Promises of Fixing those Problems the Liberals have Created with Policies that Assume Failure and Create Generational Dependence.
A Kid Living and going to School in Highlands Ranch Colorado Statistically has a FAR Higher Chance at Success in Life than ANY Kid @ Richmond High School outside of Oakland California.
A FAR Less Chance of being Beatend and Gang Rapped while a Crowd Watches.
And before someone says "Columbine", Save it...
A Rare Occurance, Statistically.
The Bus Beating in Chicago... The Street Beating in the Gang Violence there Recently that got some Press... This Incident in Richmond, the Drive-bys and Gang Fights from Coast to Coast in almost ALL of the DemocRAT Controlled Cities, the Metal Detectors and Police Units Dedicated to these Schools, FAR Outweigh the Super Rare Occurance of Violence and Murder in Areas that are NOT Controlled by DemocRATS where they House their Constituency.
It's not an Excuse, it's a Reality.
This is Partly because of Parenting or the Lack thereof, but when you have Generations Dependent on the Gubmn't Teat, and they conintue to Breed into that System, Most with No Example of a Respectable Father Figure outside of MMA and Rap, it Leaves VERY Little "Hope" for anything to "Change".
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10-28-2009, 03:48 PM
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10-28-2009, 03:50 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by concept No one tried to do anything? Aside from wait their Turn?...
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10-28-2009, 04:02 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by jillian you don't... unless, of course, you want to lay blame for the community that produced matthew shepards's murderers... or the one that produced the rapists that jody foster's movie, Accused, was based on.... or the community that produced the Columbine losers.
try focusing... this is about individual pieces of trash you should come vist richmond...it may change your opinion...
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10-28-2009, 04:33 PM
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Rep Power: 2 | | | To categorize comments pointing out the realities of this situation, or any other like it for that matter, as racist is intellectually dishonest. You can cite cases like Columbine but there is a big difference between that situation and this. In Columbine there were two white kids and their actions devastated the local community, there was no support or excuse making for the two perps from anyone. There wasn't a gang of white kids cheering them on and asking for a gun.
In this case a group of 15-20 horribly defiled and abused a young girl in a very public place and nobody tried to even report much less stop it. Instead more and more people filtered over and watched or participated. Can you find me even one example of a remotely similar event happening in a white neighborhood? Because I sure as hell can find more stories than I could ever read of non-whites doing similar things and worse.
Some more facts for those with the liberal wool pulled over their eyes. Richmond is smack dab in the Bay area, a place that has actually passed laws to protect illegal immigrants. Thanks to those laws and the general attitude of politicians and the public in major urban areas California has become home to a "wonderful" cultural group from the south called MS-13 (google it if you don't know) and other ilk like them. These nice people looking for a "better life" have used California as a bus stop to enter the country and spread elsewhere.
We Americans that oppose this lunacy get called racist, bigot, and everything else under the sun when in reality we treat immigrants (illegal and otherwise) from Mexico and Central/South America much better than they treat each other. Do a little research into the path immigrants use heading north through these countries and the problems they face along the way(National Geographic had an article on it recently). Do a google search on a rape tree, no white man invented that shit.
The way people south of the border treat their women is despicable in most countries. The way Middle Eastern men treat their women is worse. In Africa it takes an even bigger nosedive. Yet I can't find a white country that even compares......hmmm muss jus bee cuz ima racis hilbily. The actions of white men hundreds of years ago is no justification for the behavior of modern people.
It is because the majority of black and brown cultures in this world have zero respect for women and view things such as rape somewhere in the spectrum of a right, honorable, or just a good time. Comparing isolated incidents of white criminals to cultural acceptance and degeneracy among other races is flat out disgusting and bullshit. Or is it just coincidence that with the civil rights movement and throwing traditional white American values down the drain that our country has steadily declined further and further and lost nearly all sense of national identity? | 
10-28-2009, 04:48 PM
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10-28-2009, 04:49 PM
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Rep Power: 30 | | | Back during the Columbine tradgedy sone one asked me on another forum asked me why they did that awful thing.
The answer I gave then suits this situation just as well. "Because they wanted to. And no one ever taught that the desire to do something isn't necessarily a reason to do something.
We've spent the last forty years crippling parents ability to instill discipline in their children and now we wonder why we have undisciplined children.
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10-28-2009, 05:33 PM
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Rep Power: 69 | | Quote: The way people south of the border treat their women is despicable in most countries. The way Middle Eastern men treat their women is worse. In Africa it takes an even bigger nosedive. Yet I can't find a white country that even compares......hmmm muss jus bee cuz ima racis hilbily. The actions of white men hundreds of years ago is no justification for the behavior of modern people. Hey racis hilbily....what color was Hitler?
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10-28-2009, 05:50 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by rightwinger Quote: The way people south of the border treat their women is despicable in most countries. The way Middle Eastern men treat their women is worse. In Africa it takes an even bigger nosedive. Yet I can't find a white country that even compares......hmmm muss jus bee cuz ima racis hilbily. The actions of white men hundreds of years ago is no justification for the behavior of modern people. Hey racis hilbily....what color was Hitler? hey ignorant twit with your hands over your eyes.....what were the crime statistics in Nazi Germany? Not justifying the ethnic cleansing in any way or his policies towards foreign peoples, but Germans were not gangraping their own women in the streets. Your point holds zero relevance and shows your lack of critical thinking. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Gunny
You could be right. I would counter though as a group, longtime friends and acquaintances of mine don't tolerate individual bad behavior of one another, much less cheer it on. Even when we are drinking.
Something has to make these people thinks okay to commit the crime, and the others to stand by and do nothing to stop it. I don't necessarily believe it is alcohol. Obviously they are losers. I think those that watched and did nothing are every bit the losers as well. agreed on this Gunny.....lowlife losers... |  | |
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