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07-03-2009, 09:18 PM
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Rep Power: 262 | | | Honduras did not have a Coup. In fact the Supreme Court of Honduras with the consent of the Congress ordered the military to seize the former President and escort him out of the Country. Why? Because he was rabble rousing and tried to illegally change the Constitution of the Country. Honduras rejects OAS appeal to restore president - Yahoo! News
I wonder why NONE of this was reported before. A Coup is when the Military seizes power , they never seized power, they acted under the direct orders of the Supreme Court and the Congress of Honduras. The Military was never in power. Congress replaced the President at the same time he was ousted by the COURTS and the CONGRESS. Quote:
"Insulza asked Honduras to reinstate Zelaya, but the president of the court categorically answered that there is an arrest warrant for him," said court spokesman Danilo Izaguirre. "Now the OAS has to decide what it will do." Quote:
Micheletti's supporters say the army was justified in ousting Zelaya — on orders of Congress and the Supreme Court — because he had called a referendum which they claim he intended to use to extend his rule. Zelaya denies that and has said he will no longer press for constitutional changes.
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Quote: Originally Posted by RetiredGySgt In fact the Supreme Court of Honduras with the consent of the Congress ordered the military to seize the former President and escort him out of the Country. Why? Because he was rabble rousing and tried to illegally change the Constitution of the Country. Honduras rejects OAS appeal to restore president - Yahoo! News
I wonder why NONE of this was reported before. A Coup is when the Military seizes power , they never seized power, they acted under the direct orders of the Supreme Court and the Congress of Honduras. The Military was never in power. Congress replaced the President at the same time he was ousted by the COURTS and the CONGRESS. Quote:
"Insulza asked Honduras to reinstate Zelaya, but the president of the court categorically answered that there is an arrest warrant for him," said court spokesman Danilo Izaguirre. "Now the OAS has to decide what it will do." Quote:
Micheletti's supporters say the army was justified in ousting Zelaya — on orders of Congress and the Supreme Court — because he had called a referendum which they claim he intended to use to extend his rule. Zelaya denies that and has said he will no longer press for constitutional changes.
This was actually reported the day the supposed "coup" took place. Why Obama along with the MSM chose to side with Chavez is anybody's guess. | 
07-03-2009, 10:19 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Vel6377
Quote: Originally Posted by RetiredGySgt In fact the Supreme Court of Honduras with the consent of the Congress ordered the military to seize the former President and escort him out of the Country. Why? Because he was rabble rousing and tried to illegally change the Constitution of the Country. Honduras rejects OAS appeal to restore president - Yahoo! News
I wonder why NONE of this was reported before. A Coup is when the Military seizes power , they never seized power, they acted under the direct orders of the Supreme Court and the Congress of Honduras. The Military was never in power. Congress replaced the President at the same time he was ousted by the COURTS and the CONGRESS. Quote:
"Insulza asked Honduras to reinstate Zelaya, but the president of the court categorically answered that there is an arrest warrant for him," said court spokesman Danilo Izaguirre. "Now the OAS has to decide what it will do." Quote:
Micheletti's supporters say the army was justified in ousting Zelaya — on orders of Congress and the Supreme Court — because he had called a referendum which they claim he intended to use to extend his rule. Zelaya denies that and has said he will no longer press for constitutional changes.
This was actually reported the day the supposed "coup" took place. Why Obama along with the MSM chose to side with Chavez is anybody's guess. birds of a feather? | | The Following User Says Thank You to DiveCon For This Useful Post: | | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiveCon
Quote: Originally Posted by Vel6377
Quote: Originally Posted by RetiredGySgt In fact the Supreme Court of Honduras with the consent of the Congress ordered the military to seize the former President and escort him out of the Country. Why? Because he was rabble rousing and tried to illegally change the Constitution of the Country. Honduras rejects OAS appeal to restore president - Yahoo! News
I wonder why NONE of this was reported before. A Coup is when the Military seizes power , they never seized power, they acted under the direct orders of the Supreme Court and the Congress of Honduras. The Military was never in power. Congress replaced the President at the same time he was ousted by the COURTS and the CONGRESS.
This was actually reported the day the supposed "coup" took place. Why Obama along with the MSM chose to side with Chavez is anybody's guess. birds of a feather?
I'd say that's probably a good guess. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Vel6377
Quote: Originally Posted by DiveCon
Quote: Originally Posted by Vel6377
This was actually reported the day the supposed "coup" took place. Why Obama along with the MSM chose to side with Chavez is anybody's guess. birds of a feather?
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiveCon
Quote: Originally Posted by Vel6377
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I'd say that's probably a good guess.  
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiveCon Using the hammer-and-sickle symbol for non-communists Chavez and Ortega is merely evidence of the political ignorance of this school of thought. There was lasting debate about the impeachment process for Zelaya, but the exact actions that the constitution provided for were unclear. The impropriety of forcible military removal and deportation of an elected head of state is even more apparent in that regard, especially since his "unconstitutional" actions involved an attempt to organize a nonbinding referendum, an action far too trivial to warrant such extreme retaliation. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Agnapostate
Quote: Originally Posted by DiveCon Using the hammer-and-sickle symbol for non-communists Chavez and Ortega is merely evidence of the political ignorance of this school of thought. There was lasting debate about the impeachment process for Zelaya, but the exact actions that the constitution provided for were unclear. The impropriety of forcible military removal and deportation of an elected head of state is even more apparent in that regard, especially since his "unconstitutional" actions involved an attempt to organize a nonbinding referendum, an action far too trivial to warrant such extreme retaliation. neither ortega or chavez would be where they are had castro not supported them
so yeah, that tag doesnt fit
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Rep Power: 183 | | | As coups go, this was a pretty benign one.
30 years ago, the military in Honduras would have slaughtered the President, his wife, his kids, his dog, all his close confidants, and 1000 of his supporters and their wives and children. This time, they gave him the option of house arrest or going to Costa Rica. That's progress.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Harry Dresden thats what i was reading too....i guess Barack missed the memo.... It came in at 3am and you know he doesn't answer those calls. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiveCon neither ortega or chaveza would be where they are had castro not supported them
so yeah, that tag doesnt fit  "Chaveza"? Sounds kinda queer. As it were, Chavez came to national prominence as a result of an attempted revolt against then-president Carlos Andres Perez, which Castro issued a statement of opposition toward. I'd advise you to study your history a bit more. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Agnapostate
Quote: Originally Posted by DiveCon neither ortega or chaveza would be where they are had castro not supported them
so yeah, that tag doesnt fit  "Chaveza"? Sounds kinda queer. As it were, Chavez came to national prominence as a result of an attempted revolt against then-president Carlos Andres Perez, which Castro issued a statement of opposition toward. I'd advise you to study your history a bit more. ever do a typo?
this just makes you look like an even bigger asshole than before |  | |
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