Objective journalism: Does it still exist?

You've been watching a different Presidential campaign than I have, "Four More Years?" The negativity has come from both sides, not just one.

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No such thing. Never was.

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They cannot let go of Obama's shirttail long enough to have a rational discussion.

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all news in the united states is censored to death. therefore it is no longer objective.

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as a voter in a swing state (n.c.) i can tell you ads by both sides are going negative.
mccain's ads seem more negative and i think border on fear mongering.....but then the obama ad's are hardly anything different. the most negative ads are being ran in the hagen/dole race. the negative ads are allowed by the so called "swiftboater" type ads.
Many of the negative mailers in nc are not from the republican party nor are they indorsed by the candidate..they are from organizations that arent claimed by any party.
many of the recent anti obama ads are being mailed out of virginia...which is where a lot of the anti hagan mailers are coming from. no longer does one bring out the best in their candidates or trout what their candidate has done....but now its full out attack the other guy. and you want to discuss negative ads...pick up the latest issue of the nra magazine...

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Objective journalism?

You mean like giving credence to "both sides of the issue" even when one is so obviously full of beans that anyone even remotely interested can prove that one side or the other -- maybe both-- is/are a liar(s)?

Here's a throught, folks.

The TRUTH is biased.

Objectivity is NOT blihndly accepting the statements of other people.

Objective journalism is about uncovering the TRUTH.

Mindless thoughtless corporate journalism is about giving both/all sides the opportunity to speak their minds, folks.

That is pretty much what we have now.

Most journalism isn't journalism anymore.

It's posting the statements of partisans of both sides without doing a damned thing about checking the facts and informing the people when the facts don't jibe with the partisan statements.

Again, I'm pretty sure I get the most up to the minute and balanced news from

Al Jazeera English - AJE At least it's read by most of the world so interesting to see what other people around the world think of us...

what I think is that The Obama kool-aid is not exclusive to the US.....

McCain's campaign has been negative. His talking points are that Obama is a terrorist and a Marxist. Nothing can be further from the truth. I'm surprised that the media doesn't slam McCain harder for these lies. IMO, they are too easy on McCain. In their somewhat misguided attempt to be "fair" they overlook the obvious.

John Swinton

John Swinton, the foremost journalist of his day, was asked to toast an independent press at a New York banquet given in his honour by other journalists. His response was clear and forthright:

“There is no such thing, at this stage of the world’s history in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dare write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Other of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my papers, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone.

“The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men.

“We are intellectual prostitutes.”
John Swinton, New York 1890.

Is America Still a Beacon for Press Freedom? | CommonDreams.org

by Craig Aaron and Josh Stearns

"The United States of America -- land of the free, home of the First Amendment -- is supposed to be a beacon for the rest of the world. So where do we stand in the latest global rankings of press freedom?

Thirty-sixth.

That's not a typo. It's a national disgrace."

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By Nearly 8-to-1, Voters Say Journalists Want Obama to Win

By Nearly 8-to-1, Voters Say Journalists Want Obama to Win
By Brent Baker
Created 2008-10-23 17:23
“Voters overwhelmingly believe that the media wants Barack Obama to win the presidential election,” a Pew Research Center for the People and the Press survey [1] released Wednesday discovered. Specifically: “By a margin of 70%-9%, Americans say most journalists want to see Obama, not John McCain, win on Nov. 4. Another 8% say journalists don't favor either candidate, and 13% say they don't know which candidate most reporters support.”


Well at least voters seem to recognize the lack of objectivity even if they don't denounce it.

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Either that or the decades long railing against the liberal media has them fooled.

I wrote for my high school paper back in the day. Mrs. D was an evil editor who would redmark anything that demonstrated an opinion. Then we rewrote it until it was red free and matched the alloted column inches. We won the "best student newspaper" in the state that year. It was also dead boring.

Thus, the trend to sensationalize would not pass a journalism class that focused on printing the facts w/o regard to spin. And, dead boring means that your circulation will go down to the point of bankruptcy.

There is no unbiased journalism anywhere that I can see for that reason.

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New Hampshire tells the Fed to Back Off.

You want a real economic stimulus package?

Isn't it time to challenge Congress to actually work within the Constitution?