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10-03-2008, 03:57 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | Omaha City Council Approves Dangerous Dog Ordinance Quote:
The council did approve several amendments to the bill though.
They added the American bulldog to the list of breeds that define the term “pit bull.”
The amendments also give alleged violators more time to appeal and allow pit bull owners to gain exemption from muzzle requirements by responsible owner classes and K-9 Good Citizen class. The ordinance requires liability insurance be carried for the life of the dog. | Omaha City Council Approves Dangerous Dog Ordinance - Omaha News Story - KETV Omaha
Could this be precedent setting?
I'm especially intrigued by the liability insurance part. |
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10-03-2008, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by manifold | my understanding is that many homeowners policies already either won't cover certain breeds or cost substantially more if you own certain breeds. i have a miniature poodle, so i'm applying for a rebate.
at one time, i owned an american staffordshire terrier. i had to put it down. it was one of the saddest days of my life to that point, but i felt it was the right thing to do. for real.
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10-03-2008, 04:10 PM
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Banning a pitbull is like banning a certain type of car because more people get hit by it than any other car. Like the car, a pitbull attacking a human is caused by poor ownership. If you raise ANY dog, no matter what breed, the way these assholes raise pitbulls, you'll get a vicious dog on your hands.
However, if you raise a pitbull like a family raises a golden retriever, you'll get the same outcome - a wonderful, happy, loyal dog. BAN THE PEOPLE - NOT THE DOG! | 
10-03-2008, 04:15 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | This ordinance doesn't ban pit bulls. | 
10-03-2008, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by manifold | This is WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 
10-03-2008, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by manifold This ordinance doesn't ban pit bulls. | nevermind..  | 
10-03-2008, 04:30 PM
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10-03-2008, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by manifold Could this be precedent setting? 
I'm especially intrigued by the liability insurance part. |
no this is not precedent setting?
lots of city have passed very similiar ordiannces due to the danger those stupid dogs present to humans.
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10-03-2008, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by doeton no this is not precedent setting?
lots of city have passed very similiar ordiannces due to the danger those stupid dogs present to humans. |  | 
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Originally Posted by manifold | I know exactly what you're trying to do and I can be just as stubborn as you.  | 
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Rep Power: 21 | | | and no i am not objective here...that is a doberman....a big old goofy doberman...
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Originally Posted by strollingbones and no i am not objective here...that is a doberman....a big old goofy doberman... | Look at this dangerous pitbull as it's about to attack this poor, defenseless child!! | 
10-03-2008, 06:27 PM
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Rep Power: 32 | | | Actually, I don't have a problem with this ordinance from any standpoint except the libertarian one that says more gov't ordinances are never a good idea.
This is, however, simply legislating something that I mentioned as necessary in the last pitbull thread. The people who own dogs with more dominant personalities, like Rotties, Dobies, German Shepards, Akitas, Chows, pitbulls, etc. would do well to put their dogs in courses that teach both owner and dog who is boss, and help the owner keep their dog under control.
I think, especially in big cities, where dog fighting can be such a problem - that requiring pitbulls to be canine good citizens (a distinction that comes from passing a number of tests in the presence of a certified dog instructor including standing at a street corner around strangers, having people mess with their food while they are eating, and being ok being left alone for a few minutes with strangers, etc.) can be a great safety measure.
In the city of Pittsburgh, for example, dog fighting is so bad that no shelters will keep pitbulls...they are rarely adopted because it is so likely that they were either fighting dogs or bait dogs, which can both be dangerous. My roommates and I took in a stray pitbull once who was sweet as the day is long...when we found out that all the shelters would kill her we decided to keep her...until someone rang the doorbell one day and she started attacking one of my roommates feet...the shelter said she had been a bait dog - she wasn't the most effective fighter, but there would always be triggers that would make her go off. We had to put her to sleep and we cried about it for a week.
By requiring pitbull owners to pass canine good citizen tests and the like, you'd ensure that those people who own these dogs are the ones training them to be good, loving, loyal animals, while being able to prosecute those people who aren't taking care to train their animals.
All in all, I think this is a good happy medium between "no pitbulls" and a 17-yr old high-school drop-out and his drunk buddies who think its fun to have 20 pitbulls all roaming around their property.
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10-03-2008, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidS Look at this dangerous pitbull as it's about to attack this poor, defenseless child!! | what a fat youngin...thats a definate keeper there...all look healthy and happy
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