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Old 08-21-2013, 07:06 AM
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You have yet to differentiate between those families who are eligible for in home assistance vs MANDATORY inspections
I am supposed to argue for YOUR point of view?

Can you libtards get any dumber?
Do you understand what the word "eligible" means?

It means that because they are at risk they are eligible for in home services.
No, if a libtard is in control, the word means whatever the fuck the government wants it to mean at any time.

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Next, I want you to Google the term VOLUNTARY
Well, you can want in one hand and shit in the other and see which fill first, jack ass.

I ALREADY provided a government definition of 'voluntary', you fucking moron.
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Shouldn't these people be in prison?
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2. I and others point out that according to this same government, paying taxes is voluntary.
Semantic word games don't save you from the basic fact this program is voluntary and nobody is having their door kicked in for warrantless searches.
Contests of written law are in fact SEMANTIC in nature, dumbshit.

The fact that I gave you a specific example of the government using the word 'voluntary' to refer to something that is entirely NOT voluntary should clue you in, but being a libtard like you are, well that would appear to have been wasted effort to say the least.

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It is just (yet another) tin hat nutter thread, you might as well have titled it "I have mental issues than manifest themselves in irrational paranoia" instead of wasting looking like a fool complaining about a voluntary program.
Lol, and you just don't get it because you want to continue in your existence of Polyanna dreamland where everything is sugar cups, butterflys, and flying Unicorns who shit Skittles from the sky.

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1. You say it is voluntary only as legally defined by the government, so don't worry.
The states received these grants three years ago. These programs aren't hypothetical, they've been operating for a while now.

Where are the forced home inspections occurring?
The media mostly ignores them. But CPS using the cops to force their way into peoples homes and take their kids has gone on for a long damn time, doofus.



But I am sure you have good solid reasons why those parents deserved to be treated like that and have their kid taken by brute force.

Only in Libtardistan, Amerikkka.
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You people really are mentally ill -- not severe but there is a break from reality that is leading you to these paranoid beliefs.

**Obama is not looking for insidious ways to "inspect" your home and take your children away.

Did none of you go to college and develop critical thinking skills so that when you encounter a totally ridiculous story, you can identify it as such??
Do you ever go and tell drivebymedia or rdean or any of your lib buddies that go on nut job rants. I'll help you out here, of course not! Hypocrite.
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I am supposed to argue for YOUR point of view?

Can you libtards get any dumber?
Do you understand what the word "eligible" means?

It means that because they are at risk they are eligible for in home services.
No, if a libtard is in control, the word means whatever the fuck the government wants it to mean at any time.

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Next, I want you to Google the term VOLUNTARY
Well, you can want in one hand and shit in the other and see which fill first, jack ass.

I ALREADY provided a government definition of 'voluntary', you fucking moron.
I really don't know what to make of your thread...

Your desire to make words mean what YOU want them to mean indicates one of two things

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There are now new reports that show another insidious tactic that Obama and the liberals will use to further gain control over nearly every American citizen once Obama Care finally goes into effect. How about giving the government an almost unlimited right to force home “inspections” upon whoever they want, for nearly any reason that you could dream up? Indeed.

Much of these details have been laid out on King Obama’s Health and Human Services (HHS) website under the “Maternal, Infant, and Early Childhood Home Visiting Program.” Don’t you just love how these liberals cast the most nasty and evil programs into such sweet and innocent sounding names and acronyms? I do, too. This one almost gives you a down-home ‘Andy Griffith’ type of feel, doesn’t it? After all, the government is just coming for a short little visit. All they want to do is make sure that the mothers and children are being taken of. Golly, Andy, I wonder if there will pie?

Instead, what this plan actually does is to give the government, and her minions, the right to essentially invade any home that they consider to be “high-risk.” Of course, the definition of high-risk could be twisted and contorted to fit almost any purpose they wish.

According to a manual the HHS published in 2006, one of the factors that determines a high-risk home is the presence of firearms. So, now I suppose the government is going to look over records of gun registrations and then target these evil people who keep guns in their homes. Other factors include families where the mother is under the age of 21, where someone is a tobacco users, where children have low student achievement, developmental delays, or even disabilities. Hmmm…I wonder how many millions of Americans already fall under this blanket definition already? But we are not done. Families who have people that served or are serving in the armed forces are also considered to be high risk. Wow. And, those who have had multiple deployments outside of the US are considered to be even higher risk.
I think that the Obama administration is separating the classic liberals from the neoMarxist pretenders in the Democratic Party, and the neoMarxists are winning!

Sad day for America.
This is only for people who have Obamacare. I, personally, think it should extend to people who are also on Medicaid. Where else but in American can you do everything in your power to ruin your health and have the American taxpayers foot your medical bills?
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They are looking for any excuse to remove children from parental influence.
They should never have started allowing people who can't afford to support their children to keep them. There was a time in my life when there were 'poor farms' and 'friendly homes.'
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I ALREADY provided a government definition of 'voluntary', you fucking moron.
No you didn't, you provided proof you don't understand how it is applied on taxes versus reporting taxes.

This program is voluntary, thus end of this stupid thread for anyone but you, who is happy ranting and wailing about how intrusive a voluntary program is.

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The media mostly ignores them. But CPS using the cops to force their way into peoples homes and take their kids has gone on for a long damn time, doofus.
CPS is a state agency that has absolutely nothing to do with a completely voluntary federal health program.

You are complaining about a nothing, and that is utterly retarded.
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There are now new reports that show another insidious tactic that Obama and the liberals will use to further gain control over nearly every American citizen once Obama Care finally goes into effect. How about giving the government an almost unlimited right to force home “inspections” upon whoever they want, for nearly any reason that you could dream up? Indeed.

Much of these details have been laid out on King Obama’s Health and Human Services (HHS) website under the “Maternal, Infant, and Early Childhood Home Visiting Program.” Don’t you just love how these liberals cast the most nasty and evil programs into such sweet and innocent sounding names and acronyms? I do, too. This one almost gives you a down-home ‘Andy Griffith’ type of feel, doesn’t it? After all, the government is just coming for a short little visit. All they want to do is make sure that the mothers and children are being taken of. Golly, Andy, I wonder if there will pie?

Instead, what this plan actually does is to give the government, and her minions, the right to essentially invade any home that they consider to be “high-risk.” Of course, the definition of high-risk could be twisted and contorted to fit almost any purpose they wish.

According to a manual the HHS published in 2006, one of the factors that determines a high-risk home is the presence of firearms. So, now I suppose the government is going to look over records of gun registrations and then target these evil people who keep guns in their homes. Other factors include families where the mother is under the age of 21, where someone is a tobacco users, where children have low student achievement, developmental delays, or even disabilities. Hmmm…I wonder how many millions of Americans already fall under this blanket definition already? But we are not done. Families who have people that served or are serving in the armed forces are also considered to be high risk. Wow. And, those who have had multiple deployments outside of the US are considered to be even higher risk.
I think that the Obama administration is separating the classic liberals from the neoMarxist pretenders in the Democratic Party, and the neoMarxists are winning!

Sad day for America.
This is only for people who have Obamacare. I, personally, think it should extend to people who are also on Medicaid. Where else but in American can you do everything in your power to ruin your health and have the American taxpayers foot your medical bills?
There will come a time when everybody will be forced to have obamacare or doesn't that matter?
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They are looking for any excuse to remove children from parental influence.
They should never have started allowing people who can't afford to support their children to keep them. There was a time in my life when there were 'poor farms' and 'friendly homes.'
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Might as well keep going with new threads like this since we're allowed to suspend the application of the word "voluntary" regarding anything government. That way we can feel alive, alive with fear.
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Do you understand what the word "eligible" means?

It means that because they are at risk they are eligible for in home services.
No, if a libtard is in control, the word means whatever the fuck the government wants it to mean at any time.

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Next, I want you to Google the term VOLUNTARY
Well, you can want in one hand and shit in the other and see which fill first, jack ass.

I ALREADY provided a government definition of 'voluntary', you fucking moron.
I really don't know what to make of your thread...

Your desire to make words mean what YOU want them to mean indicates one of two things

1. You are being intentionally deceptive to push your agenda
2. You are fucking stupid
Lol, I put the link to the Snopes article that quotes the IRS as to their definition of voluntary, and you STILL think I am just making this shit up?

You are what people used to call 'deliberately ignorant', now I just like to be more blunt; you are an ignoramus.

lol, and you call me stupid when anyone can go back to the OP and see that you are full of shyte, dumbass.
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Shouldn't these people be in prison?
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Much of these details have been laid out on King Obama’s Health and Human Services (HHS) website under the “Maternal, Infant, and Early Childhood Home Visiting Program.” Don’t you just love how these liberals cast the most nasty and evil programs into such sweet and innocent sounding names and acronyms? I do, too. This one almost gives you a down-home ‘Andy Griffith’ type of feel, doesn’t it? After all, the government is just coming for a short little visit. All they want to do is make sure that the mothers and children are being taken of. Golly, Andy, I wonder if there will pie?

Instead, what this plan actually does is to give the government, and her minions, the right to essentially invade any home that they consider to be “high-risk.” Of course, the definition of high-risk could be twisted and contorted to fit almost any purpose they wish.

According to a manual the HHS published in 2006, one of the factors that determines a high-risk home is the presence of firearms. So, now I suppose the government is going to look over records of gun registrations and then target these evil people who keep guns in their homes. Other factors include families where the mother is under the age of 21, where someone is a tobacco users, where children have low student achievement, developmental delays, or even disabilities. Hmmm…I wonder how many millions of Americans already fall under this blanket definition already? But we are not done. Families who have people that served or are serving in the armed forces are also considered to be high risk. Wow. And, those who have had multiple deployments outside of the US are considered to be even higher risk.
I think that the Obama administration is separating the classic liberals from the neoMarxist pretenders in the Democratic Party, and the neoMarxists are winning!

Sad day for America.
This is only for people who have Obamacare. I, personally, think it should extend to people who are also on Medicaid. Where else but in American can you do everything in your power to ruin your health and have the American taxpayers foot your medical bills?
Sunshine, I wish it were so, but the track record shows that the scope of government purview ALWAYS grows and never contracts.

If the law gives the state the authority to regulate sandals less than size 6, within ten years they will regulate pants, jump suits and hats essplaining that they can all be utilized as footwear and besides it is entirely up to the state, you see, to define what a real shoe is and how big size 6 is.
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Shouldn't these people be in prison?
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They are looking for any excuse to remove children from parental influence.
They should never have started allowing people who can't afford to support their children to keep them. There was a time in my life when there were 'poor farms' and 'friendly homes.'
Lol, you drank the Kool Aid. Having children is a natural right given by God and Nature. The state has no say in the matter; at least not yet.

Do you see any limit to the scope of what the government can do and review?
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Shouldn't these people be in prison?
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I ALREADY provided a government definition of 'voluntary', you fucking moron.
No you didn't, you provided proof you don't understand how it is applied on taxes versus reporting taxes.

This program is voluntary, thus end of this stupid thread for anyone but you, who is happy ranting and wailing about how intrusive a voluntary program is.

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The media mostly ignores them. But CPS using the cops to force their way into peoples homes and take their kids has gone on for a long damn time, doofus.
CPS is a state agency that has absolutely nothing to do with a completely voluntary federal health program.

You are complaining about a nothing, and that is utterly retarded.
Lol, you STILL don't get it. The government can do anything it wants then hires its elgions of lawyers to justify it. They can say that taxes are voluntary and then define it so that it actually is not.

You are being the dumbass here, but don't let that stop you. Every time you post on this topic you re-affirm what I am saying about the stupidity of libtards.
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Annual Expenses: $38,000.00
New Credit Card Debt: $16,000.00
Total Credit Card Debt: $142,000.00
Reduced expenses this year: $38.50
Answer: Because this family extorts all its money by threat of violence.
Shouldn't these people be in prison?
That is our Federal Budget / $100,000,000.

LIBERAL MOTTO: SPEAK LOUDLY, AND CARRY A SMALL VICTIM
Licking government jack-boots is not Patriotism, it is slavery.
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