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And yet gun grabbing whores like yo compare the US to every country in the world if it suits you.

Fucking brainless hypocrits.
There you go with with the name calling again, talk about brainless, and if you are going to call someone a name, you look a little less stupid if you spell it correctly.
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The country with the lowest gun crime in the world is Switzerland. It requires everyone of age to own, and practice with assault weapons. Carrying the weapons is encouraged by the government and it is quite common to see a couple out bicycling and stopping in at a local rest stop with assault rifles strapped on their backs. They have no gun crime at all and their violent crime is as low as it can get.

They don't have people shooting up the mall or the school because there are any number of people that would kill anyone who tried such a thing.

Guns make for a polite society.....
That's not true. Switzerland had 40 Gun Homicides in 2010 and 55 in 2009.

Japan had 11 gun homicides in 2008 (the last year we have figures for.)

Now, that sounds like Japan has a better handle on this problem by banning guns, especially when you consider Japan has 110 million people and Switzerland has only 8 million.

Switzerland also has socialized medicine, and everyone who is mentally ill gets treatement.
Yeah, libtards like you would really love for Americans to become as subservient as the average Joe is in Japan.

AGain, fuck you, Joe, you lying fascist bastard.
If we were more like the Japanese, we'd be a better country. It's why every business is instituting Japanese practices. (Of course, the Japanese stole them from us, we are just taking them back.)

Actually, the Japanese are kind of conservative dream- Strong families, traditional values, industrious, hard working. What Conservatism was before the Teabaggers fucked it up with the crazy.
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His very clevere point is that Switzerland did not have serious gun crime, dumbshit.

Its funny how you try to change the topic a bit, then imply he is the one missing your point.

You fucking liar.
Switzerland is a country of about 8 million bank clerks... They don't have a serious anything problem mostly due to a lack of people.

Hey, I understand that LeichtenStein has a very low gun murder rate... or Vatican City....
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That's not true. Switzerland had 40 Gun Homicides in 2010 and 55 in 2009.

Japan had 11 gun homicides in 2008 (the last year we have figures for.)

Now, that sounds like Japan has a better handle on this problem by banning guns, especially when you consider Japan has 110 million people and Switzerland has only 8 million.

Switzerland also has socialized medicine, and everyone who is mentally ill gets treatement.
Yeah, libtards like you would really love for Americans to become as subservient as the average Joe is in Japan.

AGain, fuck you, Joe, you lying fascist bastard.
If we were more like the Japanese, we'd be a better country.
Then go live there, you fucking fascist.

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Actually, the Japanese are kind of conservative dream- Strong families, traditional values, industrious, hard working. What Conservatism was before the Teabaggers fucked it up with the crazy.
Again, you fucking lie.

An American conservative was never OK with being subservient. You are confusing conservatives with neocons who dont care what you fuck them up the ass with, or even who does it, as long as they get to keep counting their FRNs.
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His very clevere point is that Switzerland did not have serious gun crime, dumbshit.

Its funny how you try to change the topic a bit, then imply he is the one missing your point.

You fucking liar.
Switzerland is a country of about 8 million bank clerks... They don't have a serious anything problem mostly due to a lack of people.

Hey, I understand that LeichtenStein has a very low gun murder rate... or Vatican City....
But I didnt use them as examples of an armed society.

That is your problem, you cant think rationally.
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An American conservative was never OK with being subservient. You are confusing conservatives with neocons who dont care what you fuck them up the ass with, or even who does it, as long as they get to keep counting their FRNs.
Guy, "conservatives" have become tools of big corporations.... you listen to assholes like Limbaugh telling you your rights are being taken away when in fact you've been losing your middle class lifestyle for years....
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An American conservative was never OK with being subservient. You are confusing conservatives with neocons who dont care what you fuck them up the ass with, or even who does it, as long as they get to keep counting their FRNs.
Guy, "conservatives" have become tools of big corporations.... you listen to assholes like Limbaugh telling you your rights are being taken away when in fact you've been losing your middle class lifestyle for years....
Big corporations? Here we go again... Selective outrage. Now that the Liberal success story about bailing out GM and its Unions has gone quiet, liberals are back to hating corporations again... Make up your minds please.
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That's not true. Switzerland had 40 Gun Homicides in 2010 and 55 in 2009.

Japan had 11 gun homicides in 2008 (the last year we have figures for.)

Now, that sounds like Japan has a better handle on this problem by banning guns, especially when you consider Japan has 110 million people and Switzerland has only 8 million.

Switzerland also has socialized medicine, and everyone who is mentally ill gets treatement.
Yeah, libtards like you would really love for Americans to become as subservient as the average Joe is in Japan.

AGain, fuck you, Joe, you lying fascist bastard.
If we were more like the Japanese, we'd be a better country. It's why every business is instituting Japanese practices. (Of course, the Japanese stole them from us, we are just taking them back.)

Actually, the Japanese are kind of conservative dream- Strong families, traditional values, industrious, hard working. What Conservatism was before the Teabaggers fucked it up with the crazy.
More like the Japanese? The only reason the Japanese are who they are today because we bombed them into the stone age, and rebuilt their Country using our own as a model... The Japanese instituted our practices... The really didn't have a choice in the matter.
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An American conservative was never OK with being subservient. You are confusing conservatives with neocons who dont care what you fuck them up the ass with, or even who does it, as long as they get to keep counting their FRNs.
Guy, "conservatives" have become tools of big corporations.... you listen to assholes like Limbaugh telling you your rights are being taken away when in fact you've been losing your middle class lifestyle for years....
Big corporations? Here we go again... Selective outrage. Now that the Liberal success story about bailing out GM and its Unions has gone quiet, liberals are back to hating corporations again... Make up your minds please.
I don't think my opinion on corporate greed has changed that much since 2008 when they wrecked the economy.

Why people like you still make excuses for them is the real mystery.
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More like the Japanese? The only reason the Japanese are who they are today because we bombed them into the stone age, and rebuilt their Country using our own as a model... The Japanese instituted our practices... The really didn't have a choice in the matter.
Actually, if you want to go there, the model the Japanese rebuilt on was the model that FDR tried for 20 years to get with the New Deal and met with Republican and Corporate resistance.

The New Dealers went to Japan and set up a society based on FDR's principles. And oddly enough, they surprassed us within decades.
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An American conservative was never OK with being subservient. You are confusing conservatives with neocons who dont care what you fuck them up the ass with, or even who does it, as long as they get to keep counting their FRNs.
Guy, "conservatives" have become tools of big corporations.... you listen to assholes like Limbaugh telling you your rights are being taken away when in fact you've been losing your middle class lifestyle for years....
1. Limbaugh is an ENTERTAINER; who knows what he really thinks? And, I dont listen to him any more and havent heard a show of his since 1992 when he made it plain he was a GOP tool and made scathing attacks on Perot.

2. Some conservatives are conned by the neocons, some just dont care. Some conservatives see international corporations as the enemy number one. But most of them are waking up and trying to reclaim the GOP from the neocons. I think they are wasting their time. The neocons have already demonstrated that they would torpedo GOP chances of winning an election by putting a punk on the ticket, so sabotoging the GOP would fit right into their goals and style.

3. The primary reason the middle class has been losing ist standard of living is because the unions have been hijacked by a bunch of sheepskin management with musiness degrees and who are playing the leadership to the advantage of the unions only in the short term and not even that in thelong view. The sheepskins have a dull ear when it comes to workers issues and so they subscribe to text book socialism to fill in their lack of history among the rank and file.

The problems with USA unions began with the unions being taken over by Marxist thugs.
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1. Limbaugh is an ENTERTAINER; who knows what he really thinks? And, I dont listen to him any more and havent heard a show of his since 1992 when he made it plain he was a GOP tool and made scathing attacks on Perot.

2. Some conservatives are conned by the neocons, some just dont care. Some conservatives see international corporations as the enemy number one. But most of them are waking up and trying to reclaim the GOP from the neocons. I think they are wasting their time. The neocons have already demonstrated that they would torpedo GOP chances of winning an election by putting a punk on the ticket, so sabotoging the GOP would fit right into their goals and style.

3. The primary reason the middle class has been losing ist standard of living is because the unions have been hijacked by a bunch of sheepskin management with musiness degrees and who are playing the leadership to the advantage of the unions only in the short term and not even that in thelong view. The sheepskins have a dull ear when it comes to workers issues and so they subscribe to text book socialism to fill in their lack of history among the rank and file.

The problems with USA unions began with the unions being taken over by Marxist thugs.
Okay, whatever medications you are on, you seriously need to get them adjusted.

One of the few things that Limbaugh was right about was that Perot was a crazy person.

And he got 17% of the vote. Which is even scarier.
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More like the Japanese? The only reason the Japanese are who they are today because we bombed them into the stone age, and rebuilt their Country using our own as a model... The Japanese instituted our practices... The really didn't have a choice in the matter.
Actually, if you want to go there, the model the Japanese rebuilt on was the model that FDR tried for 20 years to get with the New Deal and met with Republican and Corporate resistance.

The New Dealers went to Japan and set up a society based on FDR's principles. And oddly enough, they surprassed us within decades.
Douglas MacArthur was far more instrumental in rebuilding Japan than any new dealers ever were. If you understood your history you'd know that... Kind of hard for you to accept that a Military man crafted postwar Japan, not a progressive.
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Guy, "conservatives" have become tools of big corporations.... you listen to assholes like Limbaugh telling you your rights are being taken away when in fact you've been losing your middle class lifestyle for years....
Big corporations? Here we go again... Selective outrage. Now that the Liberal success story about bailing out GM and its Unions has gone quiet, liberals are back to hating corporations again... Make up your minds please.
I don't think my opinion on corporate greed has changed that much since 2008 when they wrecked the economy.

Why people like you still make excuses for them is the real mystery.
I never made excuses for them... I just think the hypocrisy of the left saving the Unions with Taxpayer money advertised as saving General Motors is simply ridiculous.
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1. Limbaugh is an ENTERTAINER; who knows what he really thinks? And, I dont listen to him any more and havent heard a show of his since 1992 when he made it plain he was a GOP tool and made scathing attacks on Perot.

2. Some conservatives are conned by the neocons, some just dont care. Some conservatives see international corporations as the enemy number one. But most of them are waking up and trying to reclaim the GOP from the neocons. I think they are wasting their time. The neocons have already demonstrated that they would torpedo GOP chances of winning an election by putting a punk on the ticket, so sabotoging the GOP would fit right into their goals and style.

3. The primary reason the middle class has been losing ist standard of living is because the unions have been hijacked by a bunch of sheepskin management with musiness degrees and who are playing the leadership to the advantage of the unions only in the short term and not even that in thelong view. The sheepskins have a dull ear when it comes to workers issues and so they subscribe to text book socialism to fill in their lack of history among the rank and file.

The problems with USA unions began with the unions being taken over by Marxist thugs.
Okay, whatever medications you are on, you seriously need to get them adjusted.

One of the few things that Limbaugh was right about was that Perot was a crazy person.

And he got 17% of the vote. Which is even scarier.
The only thing wrong with Perot was that he dropped out of the race for a while and then tried to get back in.

Prior to running for President as an independent, he was well respected as a self-made billionare. But once he threatened the political duopoly that runs this country, all the partisan slanderers on both sides trained their ire and hatred at Perot and he still got what he did demonstrating how unpopular the two main parties are.

But it is easy to see that you shill for the left and spread the lies as freely as they are given to you.

The duopoly will eventually bust. Count on it.
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