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This is a discussion on PROOF that gun Bans Dont Solve Crime or Prevent Massacres. within the Current Events forums, part of the US Discussion category; Quote: Originally Posted by JimBowie1958 Quote: Originally Posted by NoNukes Quote: Originally Posted by JimBowie1958 And yet gun grabbing whores like yo compare the US ...
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| The country with the lowest gun crime in the world is Switzerland. It requires everyone of age to own, and practice with assault weapons. Carrying the weapons is encouraged by the government and it is quite common to see a couple out bicycling and stopping in at a local rest stop with assault rifles strapped on their backs. They have no gun crime at all and their violent crime is as low as it can get. They don't have people shooting up the mall or the school because there are any number of people that would kill anyone who tried such a thing. Guns make for a polite society..... Japan had 11 gun homicides in 2008 (the last year we have figures for.) Now, that sounds like Japan has a better handle on this problem by banning guns, especially when you consider Japan has 110 million people and Switzerland has only 8 million. Switzerland also has socialized medicine, and everyone who is mentally ill gets treatement. AGain, fuck you, Joe, you lying fascist bastard. Actually, the Japanese are kind of conservative dream- Strong families, traditional values, industrious, hard working. What Conservatism was before the Teabaggers fucked it up with the crazy.
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| Hey, I understand that LeichtenStein has a very low gun murder rate... or Vatican City....
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| That's not true. Switzerland had 40 Gun Homicides in 2010 and 55 in 2009. Japan had 11 gun homicides in 2008 (the last year we have figures for.) Now, that sounds like Japan has a better handle on this problem by banning guns, especially when you consider Japan has 110 million people and Switzerland has only 8 million. Switzerland also has socialized medicine, and everyone who is mentally ill gets treatement. AGain, fuck you, Joe, you lying fascist bastard. An American conservative was never OK with being subservient. You are confusing conservatives with neocons who dont care what you fuck them up the ass with, or even who does it, as long as they get to keep counting their FRNs.
__________________ The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." - George Washington Does 'a nation of laws' really have to mean 'a nation of lawyers?' A liberal becomes a conservative when he gets mugged by a crook. A conservative becomes a libertarian when he gets mugged by the government. '...but the truth is, O men of Athens, that God only is wise.' - Socrates |
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| Hey, I understand that LeichtenStein has a very low gun murder rate... or Vatican City.... That is your problem, you cant think rationally.
__________________ The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." - George Washington Does 'a nation of laws' really have to mean 'a nation of lawyers?' A liberal becomes a conservative when he gets mugged by a crook. A conservative becomes a libertarian when he gets mugged by the government. '...but the truth is, O men of Athens, that God only is wise.' - Socrates |
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| Guy, "conservatives" have become tools of big corporations.... you listen to assholes like Limbaugh telling you your rights are being taken away when in fact you've been losing your middle class lifestyle for years....
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| Guy, "conservatives" have become tools of big corporations.... you listen to assholes like Limbaugh telling you your rights are being taken away when in fact you've been losing your middle class lifestyle for years.... |
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| That's not true. Switzerland had 40 Gun Homicides in 2010 and 55 in 2009. Japan had 11 gun homicides in 2008 (the last year we have figures for.) Now, that sounds like Japan has a better handle on this problem by banning guns, especially when you consider Japan has 110 million people and Switzerland has only 8 million. Switzerland also has socialized medicine, and everyone who is mentally ill gets treatement. AGain, fuck you, Joe, you lying fascist bastard. Actually, the Japanese are kind of conservative dream- Strong families, traditional values, industrious, hard working. What Conservatism was before the Teabaggers fucked it up with the crazy. |
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| Guy, "conservatives" have become tools of big corporations.... you listen to assholes like Limbaugh telling you your rights are being taken away when in fact you've been losing your middle class lifestyle for years.... Why people like you still make excuses for them is the real mystery.
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| The New Dealers went to Japan and set up a society based on FDR's principles. And oddly enough, they surprassed us within decades.
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| Guy, "conservatives" have become tools of big corporations.... you listen to assholes like Limbaugh telling you your rights are being taken away when in fact you've been losing your middle class lifestyle for years.... 2. Some conservatives are conned by the neocons, some just dont care. Some conservatives see international corporations as the enemy number one. But most of them are waking up and trying to reclaim the GOP from the neocons. I think they are wasting their time. The neocons have already demonstrated that they would torpedo GOP chances of winning an election by putting a punk on the ticket, so sabotoging the GOP would fit right into their goals and style. 3. The primary reason the middle class has been losing ist standard of living is because the unions have been hijacked by a bunch of sheepskin management with musiness degrees and who are playing the leadership to the advantage of the unions only in the short term and not even that in thelong view. The sheepskins have a dull ear when it comes to workers issues and so they subscribe to text book socialism to fill in their lack of history among the rank and file. The problems with USA unions began with the unions being taken over by Marxist thugs.
__________________ The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." - George Washington Does 'a nation of laws' really have to mean 'a nation of lawyers?' A liberal becomes a conservative when he gets mugged by a crook. A conservative becomes a libertarian when he gets mugged by the government. '...but the truth is, O men of Athens, that God only is wise.' - Socrates |
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| 1. Limbaugh is an ENTERTAINER; who knows what he really thinks? And, I dont listen to him any more and havent heard a show of his since 1992 when he made it plain he was a GOP tool and made scathing attacks on Perot. 2. Some conservatives are conned by the neocons, some just dont care. Some conservatives see international corporations as the enemy number one. But most of them are waking up and trying to reclaim the GOP from the neocons. I think they are wasting their time. The neocons have already demonstrated that they would torpedo GOP chances of winning an election by putting a punk on the ticket, so sabotoging the GOP would fit right into their goals and style. 3. The primary reason the middle class has been losing ist standard of living is because the unions have been hijacked by a bunch of sheepskin management with musiness degrees and who are playing the leadership to the advantage of the unions only in the short term and not even that in thelong view. The sheepskins have a dull ear when it comes to workers issues and so they subscribe to text book socialism to fill in their lack of history among the rank and file. The problems with USA unions began with the unions being taken over by Marxist thugs. One of the few things that Limbaugh was right about was that Perot was a crazy person. And he got 17% of the vote. Which is even scarier.
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| The New Dealers went to Japan and set up a society based on FDR's principles. And oddly enough, they surprassed us within decades. American Proconsul: How Douglas MacArthur Shaped Postwar Japan |
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| Big corporations? Here we go again... Selective outrage. Now that the Liberal success story about bailing out GM and its Unions has gone quiet, liberals are back to hating corporations again... Make up your minds please. Why people like you still make excuses for them is the real mystery. |
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| 1. Limbaugh is an ENTERTAINER; who knows what he really thinks? And, I dont listen to him any more and havent heard a show of his since 1992 when he made it plain he was a GOP tool and made scathing attacks on Perot. 2. Some conservatives are conned by the neocons, some just dont care. Some conservatives see international corporations as the enemy number one. But most of them are waking up and trying to reclaim the GOP from the neocons. I think they are wasting their time. The neocons have already demonstrated that they would torpedo GOP chances of winning an election by putting a punk on the ticket, so sabotoging the GOP would fit right into their goals and style. 3. The primary reason the middle class has been losing ist standard of living is because the unions have been hijacked by a bunch of sheepskin management with musiness degrees and who are playing the leadership to the advantage of the unions only in the short term and not even that in thelong view. The sheepskins have a dull ear when it comes to workers issues and so they subscribe to text book socialism to fill in their lack of history among the rank and file. The problems with USA unions began with the unions being taken over by Marxist thugs. One of the few things that Limbaugh was right about was that Perot was a crazy person. And he got 17% of the vote. Which is even scarier. Prior to running for President as an independent, he was well respected as a self-made billionare. But once he threatened the political duopoly that runs this country, all the partisan slanderers on both sides trained their ire and hatred at Perot and he still got what he did demonstrating how unpopular the two main parties are. But it is easy to see that you shill for the left and spread the lies as freely as they are given to you. The duopoly will eventually bust. Count on it.
__________________ The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." - George Washington Does 'a nation of laws' really have to mean 'a nation of lawyers?' A liberal becomes a conservative when he gets mugged by a crook. A conservative becomes a libertarian when he gets mugged by the government. '...but the truth is, O men of Athens, that God only is wise.' - Socrates |
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