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Taking ownership I think it all revolves around the Republican governors. Something they need to do is own their problems, take ownership, and realize that the Present Administration is laying down policy and they are ignoring it. It's not at the federal level its at the state level. A lot of our rights would be restored if you remain loyal to standing policy.
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I think I'll throw this video in for chits and grins

Military Checkpoints in U.S.A - Wake Up America - YouTube
"Military" checkpoints, noting these were not active duty soldiers, but National Guardsmen on state patrol. Without getting in to the selective editing throughout the video.
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I think I'll throw this video in for chits and grins

Military Checkpoints in U.S.A - Wake Up America - YouTube
"Military" checkpoints, noting these were not active duty soldiers, but National Guardsmen on state patrol. Without getting in to the selective editing throughout the video.
As I roll my eyes.
What does MP stand for?
What emergency did the state have?
Would U.S. Army have any meaning?
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:55 AM
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I think I'll throw this video in for chits and grins

Military Checkpoints in U.S.A - Wake Up America - YouTube
"Military" checkpoints, noting these were not active duty soldiers, but National Guardsmen on state patrol. Without getting in to the selective editing throughout the video.
As I roll my eyes.
What does MP stand for?
What emergency did the state have?
Would U.S. Army have any meaning?
National Guard units don't keep a secondary set of uniforms for when they've been called up by the state.
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"Military" checkpoints, noting these were not active duty soldiers, but National Guardsmen on state patrol. Without getting in to the selective editing throughout the video.
As I roll my eyes.
What does MP stand for?
What emergency did the state have?
Would U.S. Army have any meaning?
National Guard units don't keep a secondary set of uniforms for when they've been called up by the state.
National guard would be connected with the federal government correct?
What emergency was there that they were needed?
Posse Comitatus Act
Sec. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress ; and no money appropriated by this act shall be used to pay any of the expenses incurred in the employment of any troops in violation of this section and any person willfully violating the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction thereof shall be punished by fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars or imprisonment not exceeding two years or by both such fine and imprisonment

AND DON'T COME BACK WITH BLATHER COME BACK WITH FACTS.
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Posse Comitatus only applies to National Guard units called to active duty. Otherwise, they're under the control of the government of the respective state.
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Posse Comitatus only applies to National Guard units called to active duty. Otherwise, they're under the control of the government of the respective state.
WTF????? You're confusing the old state guard with the national guard.
Governors Oppose Federal Control of Guard
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The nation's governors, protesting what they call an unprecedented shift in authority from the states to the federal government, will urge Congress today to block legislation that would allow the president to take control of National Guard forces in the event of a natural disaster or a threat to homeland security.
There is not state controlled guard anymore.

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You highlighted the wrong part. The problem for your argument is that they're not part of the "Army of the United States". That's only the case when the units have been activated in to federal service. They're still under state control otherwise. The article you posted was about a bill that, even if passed (not sure it did, article doesn't say), would expand the ability of the President to call Guard units into federal service, not make them permanently activated.
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You highlighted the wrong part. The problem for your argument is that they're not part of the "Army of the United States". That's only the case when the units have been activated in to federal service. They're still under state control otherwise. The article you posted was about a bill that, even if passed (not sure it did, article doesn't say), would expand the ability of the President to call Guard units into federal service, not make them permanently activated.
Nope I highlighted the correct part. There is no state guard, it's national run by the federal government.
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You highlighted the wrong part. The problem for your argument is that they're not part of the "Army of the United States". That's only the case when the units have been activated in to federal service. They're still under state control otherwise. The article you posted was about a bill that, even if passed (not sure it did, article doesn't say), would expand the ability of the President to call Guard units into federal service, not make them permanently activated.
Nope I highlighted the correct part. There is no state guard, it's national run by the federal government.
Except that's not true.

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“Army National Guard” means that part of the organized militia of the several States and Territories, Puerto Rico, and the District of Columbia, active and inactive, that
32 USC § 101
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You highlighted the wrong part. The problem for your argument is that they're not part of the "Army of the United States". That's only the case when the units have been activated in to federal service. They're still under state control otherwise. The article you posted was about a bill that, even if passed (not sure it did, article doesn't say), would expand the ability of the President to call Guard units into federal service, not make them permanently activated.
Nope I highlighted the correct part. There is no state guard, it's national run by the federal government.
Except that's not true.

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“Army National Guard” means that part of the organized militia of the several States and Territories, Puerto Rico, and the District of Columbia, active and inactive, that
32 USC § 101
Governors Oppose Federal Control of Guard

Governors lose in power struggle over National Guard – Tenth Amendment Center
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It's so cute when gun owners act like they are an oppressed underclass.
Hec, they might as well join in onto the band wagon with the rest of the classes who are just as cute/funny also.. Why should they be left out ?
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It's so cute when gun owners act like they are an oppressed underclass.
It'll never top the "struggles" of being white. Or being Christian.
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