Threats From Obama Administration Exhibit Thuggery

So you honestly think there are no people in this country. Who could afford to insure themselves but choose instead to have large screen TV's. high speed internet, 2 cars, and all the modern gadgets?

Sure there are people that genuinely need help, but there are people who could afford it themselves but simply choose to spend their money on other things. Especially among people 18 to 26. Who are counted in the number of uninsured, but who if single could insure themselves for about 150 bucks a month. Which when compared to all the things we spend our money on each month. Is not much at all.

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Of course there are people like you describe. But rejecting healthcare reform which would help millions of people who genuinely DO need help because of these people is ridiculous. Healthcare reform is MUCH more then helping people who don't have insurance, it's about making sure people who already have insurance receive they care they need and have paid for when they need it.

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No, it's not about that. It's about expanding the scope of government control over The People, and replacing the Rule of Law with the Whim of the Bureaucrat.

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"Nothing is more curious than the almost savage hostility that Humour excites in those who lack it." - George Saintsbury, A Last Vintage

Making sure people have coverage after paying their premiums is fine, but that is not what this "health care reform" accomplished. Forcing the American people to buy health insurance is not reform. This congress and this president did not "reform" health care. They ruined it. That's why the American people are going to reject this entire mess on Nov 2.

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Fear not, the people may be deluded for a moment, but cannot be corrupted.
Andrew Jackson

I was talking about those people, Many 18 to 25 years old. Who are healthy and could get insurance for about 150 bucks a month, but do not. Then have 2 cars, Cell phones, High speed internet, and all the other modern gadgets of life. Sure there are people who need help, but there are also people who could help themselves and choose not to. When they count the uninsured the do not discriminate between those who genuinely can not afford it, and those who could afford it and choose not to get it.

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Don't talk to me like I do not know how it is asshole. You do not know me. I do not have insurance. My mother who is still not old enough for medicare. Does not have insurance and has A plastic Anemia and recently had a mastectomy because of Breast cancer.

So far the "evil" hospitals and doctors have FORGIVEN 112,000 dollars in bills she has racked up. Simply called up and said. You are off the hook We will use it as a write off. She also gets free drugs provided by an evil Pharmaceutical company. Who have agreed to provide her and several other local patients with her disorder drug therapy for the rest of their lives for free.

So do not talk to me like you know me, or what I have been through. My mother is exactly the kind of person who could be hurt by the Rationing that a Government controlled health care for all will lead to. She has a Chronic Disorder which is almost 100% survivable but which requires expensive long term treatment and blood infusions to keep her alive. It is exactly that kind of person who has reason to fear this bill. It is exactly that kind of person who stands to not get the best possible treatment as bureaucrats scramble to cut costs.

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Originally Posted by Salt Jones
98% of blacks are racist. Why do you think we laughed at all the white people killed on 9/11/01 or as we call it "New Christmas".

The more we look at the plan, they less we like it. (We is not just conservatives, as many of the Democrats are now realizing):

Pajamas Media Get Ready for Your Health Care ‘Re-Education’

Lots of links and issues in remainder of piece.

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For the next 2 years, Democrats should call the shots-Electoral landslide.

Actually it's EXACTLY what this bill has helped to accomplish. You may not like everything that is in the bill, but what it has done in removing exclusions based upon preexisting conditions and removing caps on coverage limits directly impacts helping people who DO have insurance.

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No they don't. A lot of people would rather have no frills policies where they have copayments in order to lower their premiums. ObamaCare forces a one-sized fits all model that will end up fitting nobody.

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"Nothing is more curious than the almost savage hostility that Humour excites in those who lack it." - George Saintsbury, A Last Vintage

Your pals didn't have to force all of us to buy coverage. That's where your pals overstepped their bounds and that is why they are going to get tossed out on thier asses on Nov 2. Do you understand that?

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Fear not, the people may be deluded for a moment, but cannot be corrupted.
Andrew Jackson

It also has the undesired effect of driving up costs. YOU can not remove caps, and force them to cover all pre-existing conditions and not expect costs to sky rocket.

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First of all, when did I ever call the hospitals or doctors "evil"? I have always singled out insurance companies. Get your facts straight before calling me names. That's great that the hospital decided to help your mother, but not everyone is so fortunate. We can't "hope" that everyone who needs urgent care will have it gifted to them by the hospital, that's just not a realistic solution to a widespread problem.

You mention that the hospital, "wrote it off" so you're mother can get care. Wrote it off as in had the government subsidize the cost through decreased taxes. So you are already getting government backed healthcare. Pretty ironic that you are now completely against it. Funny how that works. Explain to me how thats ok for you and your family but not the other millions of americans who need help. You called me an asshole, I'll just stick with pointing out that you are a hypocrite.

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Do you even understand what you're saying. What you said has nothing to do with the points I brought up. It's like you're not even reading whats been posted. I never ONCE mentioned the lowering of premiums as being something that this bill is doing well. I talked about helping people get the coverage that they are already paying for.

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That portion was unfortunately added late in the process as it was heavily lobbied by insurance companies to add that in there. It's certainly not a perfect solution but the situation was either we all get a chance at coverage or only the most well-of people can be assured they will have their medical bills taken care of when the time comes.

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My response was on point. All those mandates increase the costs of coverage, which drive up prices. Many people have freely chosen less broad coverages in order to keep their premiums lower. OmamaCare forces them to pay rof things they don't want.

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"Nothing is more curious than the almost savage hostility that Humour excites in those who lack it." - George Saintsbury, A Last Vintage