more evidence than your conspiracy theory...

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Remember, remember, the 11th of september The Gunpowder Treason and plot;
I see of no reason why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.....

yeah and just because your afraid of the truth and dont want to look at the evidence doesnt mean we havent shown evidence.

[quote=sylverfoxx;1038780]yeah its hilarious how they say the fire weakened the towers steel and that caused them to collapse yet like you just posted,that building in China burned for several HOURS yesterday and the day before and yet that building never collapsed.its hilarious the way they grasp at straws to avoid doing the mature thing by admitting they have been proven wrong.

That is false logic. Simply because one building does not collapse does not mean another will not.

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[quote=Toro;1039310]why dont you read my previous posts here before this one before quoting me on THIS one so I dont have to repeat myself again?sheesh.also if you bothered to watch EOTS video he just posted, you would see how stupid the 9/11 apologists look in defending the official version.

Dude I wasnt saying that just because THAT building didnt collapse due to fire that it means the twin towers didn't collapse.I was only using that as an example.

You want to look at false logic, you need to look at the false logic you 9/11 apologists have that the towers fell due to the fires despite the fact that no steel framed building in the history of mankind has ever collapsed due to fires before 9/11.

As I just said,the designers who actually built the towers built the towers anticipating the jet airliner slamming into it and anticipating the fires.as I said,John Skilling the lead designer and engineer of the towers "who died in 98." said back in 93 after the first world trade center bombing when asked what would happen if a jet airliner slammed into the towers and a fire started,said-We anticipated that.There would be a great loss of life but the structure itself would remain standing.

Plus Like i said before,the on site construction manager Frank Demartini in jan 2001 before 9/11, in a show on the history channel MODERN MARVELS said-They were overdesigned to take a hit from a jet airliner.That they could take MULTIPLE hits from airliners and would STILL remain standing.I have shown that video before where Demartini says that to people like Big D and Divecon but those two frady cats always ignored it.

yeah the people who defend the official version cause their in so much denial about this do a disservice to the over 3000 people in those towers who lost their lives.

This is something I have been wanting to post for a long time that was an article in ROCK CREEK FREE PRESS but was thinking I had to pick the right day to do it cause i did not think the article was out there on the internet and it would take an hour or so to post.But thankfully I discovered it IS on the internet so i wont have to print it out and make multiple posts of it. thank god.Its an article written by Kevin Ryan.Eots showed a video of him talking not too long ago so now is a great time to refer people to a link where he talked about the so called "EXPERTS" from popular mechanics who are sellouts to the american people.If you go to google and google in-Kevin Ryans article on WTC collapse and go to the eigth article,the third one from the bottom that says 9/11: LOOKING FOR TRUTH IN CREDENTIALS:THE PECULIAR WTC "EXPERTS" as you can see from that article, Kevin Ryan goes on to say-

Can you show another building, in the history of sky scrapers, that has fallen into itself like WT7 did, due to anything other than a controlled demolition?

-But the fact is that the experts found to support the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 are predominantly those who profit from doing so.thats not to say that all these people were "part of the conspiracy" But they are,whether consciously or not,a part of the coverup.and that, of course, is the greater crime.The Bush administration employed a number of such credentialed experts to give us multiple explanations for the unprecedented destruction of three tall steel framed buildings at the world trade center.Unfortunately,all of those explanations have proven to be false,and this fact reminds us that acedemic credentials dont necessarily make a person capable of,or more likely to,tell the truth.
Exactly how they could find so many experts on the fire induced collapse of tall buildings is not immediately clear,considering such and event had never happened before.But it did help that the questions were quickly framed as being solely matters of structural engineering,a sub field of engineering because structural engineers cannot find work without continual government approvals.

Thats just an example of the things that Kevin Ryan goes on to say in the article as you'll see when you read that great article.Thats why I laugh my butt off when people like Big D and others worship Gene Corley as the ulitmate god on the collapse of the towers collapse cause Corley worked for the US DEPT OF DEFENSE through the Blast Mitigation For Structures Program for many years before 9/11 and was also involved in the coverup with FEMA in the OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING as well.Those are some of the little details that popular mechanics leaves out in their propagation of 9/11.as you can see at the bottom of the article there,it goes on to end the article saying-Kevin Ryan was a manager at Underwriters Laboratories who was terminated in 2004 for pointing out that UL certified the steel used in the WTC to withstand fires of 2000 degrees for six hours,therefore fire could not have caused the collapse.AMEN to that.

LOL, THEN YOU ARE INSINUATING THEY ARE NOT REAL,YOU MORON,
Dude face it, you are just here because you get off on saying "nah ah, that's a lie", or "troofer site= not real" You crack me up, we have shown you enough evidence that produces very serious doubts about the official version of events yet you are too stubborn to even admit that. I feel sorry for your dumbass, really.


This about sums up people like you

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yes and also show us where the concrete was pulverized to dust and the newspaper articles of body parts scattered blocks away and witnesses saying they saw bright orange yellow flashes going off- something that has never happened in the history of mankind.all you got to do to know the 9/11 commission needs to be called the 9/11 COVERUP commission, is go to the top of some huge tall building sometime and drop off a slab of concrete on the street and see if it pulverizes to dust.it wont happen.It will break off into tiny chunks.

Hey sylverfoxx,Eots and mr jones,could you guys read that article on kevin ryan I just talked about and comment on it? I would like to hear your thoughts on it.Like i said,just go to google and google in-Kevin Ryans article on WTC collpase and read the article there that says-9/11 LOOKING FOR TRUTH IN CREDENTIALS:THE PECULIAR WTC EXPERTS.thanks. I would appreciate your thoughts on that article.

I actually posted part of that article somewhere in this long ass thread, but of course these guys don't want to read or hear anything that will tarnish the reputation of their mass murderer family member Uncle Sam.

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Is it logical to believe, that only reinforced hirise buildings like WTC 7 can collapse at near freefall speed with the limited fires and damaged it sustained on 9-11, only in the United States? Can you honestly walk away from these facts after viewing and studying them, and still not even feel a twinge of skepticism?

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