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Shocking Obamacare facts:

1. There will be non-profit insurers offering health care plans in the exchanges on top of traditional private insurers. The public option never really disappeared. It was just replaced with non-profit language that will turn into non-profit options just as strong as the proposed public option.

2. Medicaid will be significantly expanded to 15 million poor uninsured americans in 2014. People in deep poverty will have significantly better lives. Everyone at less than 133% of the poverty level will be covered under medicaid.

3. Medicare's trust fund will be extended 12 years. Seniors have free preventive care and check ups. Lots of money has been saved through waste trimming and fraud recollecting.

4. Small business tax credits will have their amounts magnified for small businesses in 2014. When juxtaposed with the strongly regulated exchanges, coverage will be very affordable for small businesses.

5. For everyone up to 400% of the poverty level (millions and millions of americans are under this category), huge tax credits will be available to help them afford coverage. Those who already have insurance qualify too, not just the uninsured. This is a HUGE middle class tax cut.

6. Preventive care will be free in all insurance plans eventually as all plans lose their grandfathered status.

7. Single Payer is coming to America because of obamacare.

8. Community Health centers will be invested on and will significantly impact health care for the better.

9. The rich people start paying their fair share as promised by Obama in 2013. Payroll taxes on people earning incomes of 250,000 dollars go up. It was a key element in the payment mechanism of the bill. The Bush tax cuts for the rich will expire at the end of this year too.
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Shocking Obamacare facts:

1. There will be non-profit insurers offering health care plans in the exchanges on top of traditional private insurers. The public option never really disappeared. It was just replaced with non-profit language that will turn into non-profit options just as strong as the proposed public option.

2. Medicaid will be significantly expanded to 15 million poor uninsured americans in 2014. People in deep poverty will have significantly better lives. Everyone at less than 133% of the poverty level will be covered under medicaid.

3. Medicare's trust fund will be extended 12 years. Seniors have free preventive care and check ups. Lots of money has been saved through waste trimming and fraud recollecting.

4. Small business tax credits will have their amounts magnified for small businesses in 2014. When juxtaposed with the strongly regulated exchanges, coverage will be very affordable for small businesses.

5. For everyone up to 400% of the poverty level (millions and millions of americans are under this category), huge tax credits will be available to help them afford coverage. Those who already have insurance qualify too, not just the uninsured. This is a HUGE middle class tax cut.

6. Preventive care will be free in all insurance plans eventually as all plans lose their grandfathered status.

7. Single Payer is coming to America because of obamacare.

8. Community Health centers will be invested on and will significantly impact health care for the better.

9. The rich people start paying their fair share as promised by Obama in 2013. Payroll taxes on people earning incomes of 250,000 dollars go up. It was a key element in the payment mechanism of the bill. The Bush tax cuts for the rich will expire at the end of this year too.
Those aren't "facts," silly bozo.
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Well, now it is obvious why Silly B didn't link his source:

Daily Kos: some shocking Obamacares facts

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Well, now it is obvious why Silly B didn't link his source:

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Facts are facts. Sorry you don't like it when Obama or Michael Moore or Randi Rhodes or Ed Schultz are the sources of our facts. We can't rely on Fox or Rush or Drudge to tell us the truth.

And the FACT is, you righties have done nothing but lie about Obamacare from day one. That's how I know its good. If you hate it, it must be good.

For example, death panels. Where did you get that from? Sarah Palin? Getting it from a liar didn't stop you from repeating the lies.

Sorry you hate truth and facts.
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Facts are facts. Sorry you don't like it when Obama or Michael Moore or Randi Rhodes or Ed Schultz are the sources of our facts. We can't rely on Fox or Rush or Drudge to tell us the truth.

And the FACT is, you righties have done nothing but lie about Obamacare from day one. That's how I know its good. If you hate it, it must be good.

For example, death panels. Where did you get that from? Sarah Palin? Getting it from a liar didn't stop you from repeating the lies.

Sorry you hate truth and facts.
Facts?

Right, a poster with your beliefs makes a few stupid statements with no basis in fact and you blow his horn.

Are you by any chance sreeizzle2012? You do a lot of making up "facts" here as well. I wouldn't be surprised if you two are not one in the same.

My problem with your piece of shit legislation is two fold. One, America can't afford it. Two, I don't want Ms. Nancy or any of her damned cronies, (Democrat or Republican) being the CEO of my health insurance company. They've proved they are nothing but crooks and fuck ups and people like you want to give them control over a huge part of the American economy.

Where the fuck is your damned head? I'm guessing in Nancy P's crotch.

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Well, now it is obvious why Silly B didn't link his source:

Daily Kos: some shocking Obamacares facts

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Facts are facts. Sorry you don't like it when Obama or Michael Moore or Randi Rhodes or Ed Schultz are the sources of our facts. We can't rely on Fox or Rush or Drudge to tell us the truth.

And the FACT is, you righties have done nothing but lie about Obamacare from day one. That's how I know its good. If you hate it, it must be good.

For example, death panels. Where did you get that from? Sarah Palin? Getting it from a liar didn't stop you from repeating the lies.

Sorry you hate truth and facts.
Facts?

Right, a poster with your beliefs makes a few stupid statements with no basis in fact and you blow his horn.

Are you by any chance sreeizzle2012? You do a lot of making up "facts" here as well. I wouldn't be surprised if you two are not one in the same.

My problem with your piece of shit legislation is two fold. One, America can't afford it. Two, I don't want Ms. Nancy or any of her damned cronies, (Democrat or Republican) being the CEO of my health insurance company. They've proved they are nothing but crooks and fuck ups and people like you want to give them control over a huge part of the American economy.

Where the fuck is your damned head? I'm guessing in Nancy P's crotch.

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Yes, FACTS. Just like Evolution. You may not like the facts, but they are facts none the less.

2. America can't afford not to have healthcare reform. You forget why Obamacare was necessary in the first place. Hell, long overdue. Hillary tried in the 90's, unsuccessfully. Why did she fail? Because the Healthcare monopolies, lobbyists and GOP. You forget that healthcare costs went up 200% between 2000 and 2008. You forget how many millions lost their healthcare in that time. You allowed healthcare companies to go unregulated and deny people for pre existing conditions.

Oh yea, and as the costs have went up, they cover less and less. Because they are FOR PROFITS and the CEO's pay just went up 500% in the last 10 years. Rather than keep costs under control, they are gouging us and trying to squeeze out all the profits.

Fact is, Healthcare needs to be single payer, socialized, or whatever you want to call it. There will still be room for FOR PROFIT Healthcare. The rich will buy those. Or the middle class will buy it too if it is affordable. But they have a monopoly and need to have a government option that they have to compete with that will keep costs down.

This is too much for you I'm sure. Just called it socialized medicine. But you have a choice. You can buy private insurance if you want to. Or IF You can afford it, which you won't because you are a broke ass I'm sure.
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How come Ron Paul supporters get it that the private bankers are corrupt but can't get it through their heads that the insurance and oil companies are too?
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LMAO!

I had better buy stock in RFID chip makers.
You'd by stock in the # of the beast?

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This new law requires an RFID chip implanted in all of us. This chip will not only contain your personal information with tracking capability but it will also be linked to your bank account. And get this, Page 1004 of the new law (dictating the timing of this chip), reads, and I quote: “Not later than 36 months after the date of the enactment”. It is now the law of the land that by March 23rd 2013 we will all be required to have an RFID chip underneath our skin and this chip will be link to our bank accounts as well as have our personal records and tracking capability built into it.

In just a minute I’m going to show you the black and white of the law itself and you can see it with your own eyes and wonder why an event of this magnitude which is nothing less than seismic in nature is met with little more than silence in the Christian community.

Is it now starting to dawn on you just where exactly we are in prophecy? I’ll ask that question again in a minute and follow up on it, but now I want to show you the law itself. I’ve downloaded a PDF copy of HR3200 from the government’s website so what I’m about to show you is from the bill itself its nothing that I’ve written. You can access it all and see it all for yourself straight from the source itself. Continued
Comment: Oh thats just dandy, I guess our idiot leadership should of read the bill before passing it and giving us the # of the beast
I hate Obamacare, and think it needs to be repealed and replaced.

But even I know this is complete bullshit. I read every page of every version of the bill, and then the final law again once it was signed.

There is not a fucking thing in there about chip implants.

This belongs in the Conspiracy Theory section, and you belong in a fucking looney bin.
I didn't write the article, but that is the plan over time.
Remember when RFID was introduced? It came out for a cashless society. Lots of people got upset, so they revamped their marketing. Then went after locaters for kids using the chips, they sold that, then they went to implants for people in hospitals, and sold that.

If this article is correct or not, the powers behind obamacare are the same powers who want the cashless society. They want us all on a global lease, and thats just a fact...if you have been paying attention for the last couple of decades.
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As usual, Roboloon is going with what OTHER whacks claim.

HERE is the legislation. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...11hr3200ih.pdf

Go to page 1001 for the relevant snippets. It's written in the gibberish usually used in legislation.

But as much as I loath ObamaCare, the import of that section deals with medical devices that are designed to be implanted:

Quote:
9 Subtitle C—National Medical
10 Device Registry
11 SEC. 2521. NATIONAL MEDICAL DEVICE REGISTRY.
12 (a) REGISTRY.—
13 (1) IN GENERAL.—Section 519 of the Federal
14 Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. 360i) is
15 amended—
16 (A) by redesignating subsection (g) as sub17
section (h); and
18 (B) by inserting after subsection (f) the
19 following:
20 ‘‘National Medical Device Registry
21 ‘‘(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national med22
ical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the
23 ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and
24 outcomes data on each device that—
25 ‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and
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1 ‘‘(B) is—
2 ‘‘(i) a class III device; or
3 ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable,
4 life-supporting, or life-sustaining.
5 ‘‘(2) In developing the registry, the Secretary shall,
6 in consultation with the Commissioner of Food and Drugs,
7 the Administrator of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid
8 Services, the head of the Office of the National Coordi9
nator for Health Information Technology, and the Sec10
retary of Veterans Affairs, determine the best methods
11 for—
12 ‘‘(A) including in the registry, in a manner con13
sistent with subsection (f), appropriate information
14 to identify each device described in paragraph (1) by
15 type, model, and serial number or other unique iden16
tifier;
17 ‘‘(B) validating methods for analyzing patient
18 safety and outcomes data from multiple sources and
19 for linking such data with the information included
20 in the registry as described in subparagraph (A), in21
cluding, to the extent feasible, use of—
22 ‘‘(i) data provided to the Secretary under
23 other provisions of this chapter; and
24 ‘‘(ii) information from public and private
25 sources identified under paragraph (3);
Here's the key part: "to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and
outcomes data on each device . . . ."

Jeez.

Such alarmism.
And as soon as one comes our of clinical trials I'm going to have one for delivery of my medication so I can toss this pump and Hickman catheter!
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LMAO!

I had better buy stock in RFID chip makers.
You'd by stock in the # of the beast?

I could of been a very rich man if I sold out 30 years ago, but I don't like blood money
When you have an incurable disease and the only thing that will save your life is an 'implanted device' it's truly amazing how fast you cozy up to 'the beast.'
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This new law requires an RFID chip implanted in all of us. This chip will not only contain your personal information with tracking capability but it will also be linked to your bank account. And get this, Page 1004 of the new law (dictating the timing of this chip), reads, and I quote: “Not later than 36 months after the date of the enactment”. It is now the law of the land that by March 23rd 2013 we will all be required to have an RFID chip underneath our skin and this chip will be link to our bank accounts as well as have our personal records and tracking capability built into it.

In just a minute I’m going to show you the black and white of the law itself and you can see it with your own eyes and wonder why an event of this magnitude which is nothing less than seismic in nature is met with little more than silence in the Christian community.

Is it now starting to dawn on you just where exactly we are in prophecy? I’ll ask that question again in a minute and follow up on it, but now I want to show you the law itself. I’ve downloaded a PDF copy of HR3200 from the government’s website so what I’m about to show you is from the bill itself its nothing that I’ve written. You can access it all and see it all for yourself straight from the source itself. Continued
Comment: Oh thats just dandy, I guess our idiot leadership should of read the bill before passing it and giving us the # of the beast
"In a minute" is what you said. Post the link or shut the fuck up. I already know where this is going so, "Just shut the fuck up, idiot."
In a minute? Did I say that? I've been working. I didn't write the article, but I will tell you that is what is planned.
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