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Rep Power: 213 | | | House Approves Bill to Reclaim AIG Bonuses through New Tax On Fox they just announced that the bill passed.
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03-19-2009, 12:51 PM
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03-19-2009, 12:52 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Midnight Marauder Look how fast they can get things done when they really want them done! or to cover their ass.....nothing like ignoring the constitution to do it either....
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Quote: Originally Posted by Truthmatters and who will you credit? you and the internet......
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03-19-2009, 12:57 PM
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Rep Power: 213 | | | Wait ... the measure is defeated. Within the past few minutes many changed their vote. I'm watching Fox right now.
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But I don't think we're going to be able to elminate employer coverage immediately.
There's going to be potentially some transition process I can envision a decade out or 15 or 20 years out."
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03-19-2009, 12:58 PM
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There's going to be potentially some transition process I can envision a decade out or 15 or 20 years out."
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03-19-2009, 12:59 PM
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It passed 85 dems 14 rs for it
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03-19-2009, 01:01 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Truthmatters Just saw the vote totals
It passed 85 dems 14 rs for it It did pass? Maybe I heard wrong. Too much multitasking.
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There's going to be potentially some transition process I can envision a decade out or 15 or 20 years out."
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03-19-2009, 01:02 PM
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Rep Power: 42 | | ABC News: Dodd vs. Treasury: Who Is Responsible for AIG Loophole?
Looks like this whole thing was all about how to do this legally.
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03-19-2009, 01:05 PM
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Rep Power: 213 | | | I'm talking about the bill to tax the AIG bonus money. It passed then I thought they said it didn't. CNN has it that it passed 328-93. Don't know what I thought I heard about it not passing.
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But I don't think we're going to be able to elminate employer coverage immediately.
There's going to be potentially some transition process I can envision a decade out or 15 or 20 years out."
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03-19-2009, 01:07 PM
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Rep Power: 126 | | Dodd is no longer denying this was his baby. And the issue isn't why it was done, or even what it is. It's the lying, blame shifting, coming up with anonymous people to blame, their false outrage, etc. that is not playing too well with the folks.
We're talking about a lousy DIME for every $100 AIG received of our money, to meet contractual obligations that if not met, could have cost 30-40 cents for every $100. They could have headed this off and been up-front about it, a month ago. Had they done so, it would be no issue now. | 
03-19-2009, 01:10 PM
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Rep Power: 42 | | | Could you go get his quote of denial?
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03-19-2009, 01:12 PM
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03-19-2009, 01:17 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by driveby Communism here we come, oh wait ...... nah this more like a banana republic......passing legislation to encourage a behaviour....having the whole thing blow up in their face......blaming everyone but themselves.....passing bills without reading them to try to fix their mistake....then holding hearings blaming others for their new round of mistakes......then passing laws after the fact to fix yet another one of their fuck ups......
i sure hope this changes soon.......
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