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10-15-2008, 08:55 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal The October surprise they're counting on is software .. and you can't see it, can't determine its effects on the outcome.
They are flailing and desperate .. which makes them dangerous.
Obama supporters best hope he wins by big margins because if this election is close, software wins. Software can only win in jurisdictions where the Secretary of State is appointed by a Republican Governor. Is that in every swing state? If Florida's one of them, I don't think Crist is going to help too much. That's a big difference from Jeb helping his brother.
I agree with you about software, though. I've been concerned about that since the repubs went nuts fighting against verifiable voting. But that must make me a conspiracy theorist.
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiamondDave I supported McCain in 2000, but voted for Bush over Gore... an obvious choice... same in 2004, because Kerry was a absolute freaking joke and worse than Bush... do I wish there were a better REP nominee in those 2 elections? Yep... but I did not have that option... and I fully believe we would be in even worse shape with either Gore or Kerry...
You can keep your left wing run DEm party.. I will continue to vote againt it and will only think of voting for a DEM if they are a true moderate that works across the table and not just for the far-left In case you haven't noticed my brother, the Democratic Party is a party of centrists .. they are not liberals or the left .. let alone the "far-left."
Democrats simply use the left to get elected, then they discard them like yesterday's trash.
If you're angry at the left you should take it out on the Green Party, not centrists democrats.
I amazed at how both democrats and republicans keep making the same "lessor of two evils" argument .. while the country continues to decline.
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Quote: Originally Posted by jillian Software can only win in jurisdictions where the Secretary of State is appointed by a Republican Governor. Is that in every swing state? If Florida's one of them, I don't think Crist is going to help too much. That's a big difference from Jeb helping his brother.
I agree with you about software, though. I've been concerned about that since the repubs went nuts fighting against verifiable voting. But that must make me a conspiracy theorist. It makes you a realist who understands the basic nature of software .. garbage in, garbage out. Ask yourself .. why would the software allow for negative votes?
.. and it doesn't require a republican governor or republican SOS to make the fraud work. Here in georgia, papaerless faith-based electronic voting was brought into the state by a democratic SOS, Cathy Cox, whom I've battled in town hall meetings, public forums, and op/ed articles since she brought it into Georgia .. that is, the forums she would attend after she found out I would be there.
Since the introduction of electronic voting in Georgia it elected its first republican governor in 130 years .. and now has 2 republican senators for the first time ever.
A similar thing happend in Nebraska when Chuck Hagel, who owned an interest in the voting machine vendors they used, became the first elected Governor of Nebraska in 24 years.
Don't be put off from critical thinking by the linguistic invention of "conspiracy theory", which was invented to avoid critical thinking.
Saddam does not have WMD and the Iraq War is a concocted fraud based on lies and deceptions ... conspiracy theory?
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10-15-2008, 09:34 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal In case you haven't noticed my brother, the Democratic Party is a party of centrists .. they are not liberals or the left .. let alone the "far-left."
Democrats simply use the left to get elected, then they discard them like yesterday's trash.
If you're angry at the left you should take it out on the Green Party, not centrists democrats.
I amazed at how both democrats and republicans keep making the same "lessor of two evils" argument .. while the country continues to decline. Oh GOD is that laughable.. there has not been a powerful or prominent moderate DEM in YEARS.... the current DEM party and DEM agenda is definitely run by and beholden to the far left
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal It makes you a realist who understands the basic nature of software .. garbage in, garbage out. Ask yourself .. why would the software allow for negative votes?
.. and it doesn't require a republican governor or republican SOS to make the fraud work. Here in georgia, papaerless faith-based electronic voting was brought into the state by a democratic SOS, Cathy Cox, whom I've battled in town hall meetings, public forums, and op/ed articles since she brought it into Georgia .. that is, the forums she would attend after she found out I would be there.
Since the introduction of electronic voting in Georgia it elected its first republican governor in 130 years .. and now has 2 republican senators for the first time ever.
A similar thing happend in Nebraska when Chuck Hagel, who owned an interest in the voting machine vendors they used, became the first elected Governor of Nebraska in 24 years.
Don't be put off from critical thinking by the linguistic invention of "conspiracy theory", which was invented to avoid critical thinking.
Saddam does not have WMD and the Iraq War is a concocted fraud based on lies and deceptions ... conspiracy theory? Given that the secretary of State controls who votes and when and where voting machines are placed and how many, and then does the counting, I'm not sure I understand how it would happen where there's a democratic Secy of State. Given what you're saying, it certainly seems possible, but I believe in verification regardless of who's in office. I do know that there were some glitches (intentional or not) that made the machines drop votes in busier (read: uban: democratic) precincts, so that might account for part of it.
In NY, we have poll watchers and people tallying the votes in every machine after the polls close. Each political club also sends people to each polling place to do a tally and bring the numbers in. Theoretically, at least, the numbers taken from the machines by poll workers would have to be consistent with the numbers that come down in the final analysis. But maybe that's because we don't do black box voting here yet.
And there were no WMD's and the Iraq war was a fabricated war of choice. I get your drift.
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal Yes, that's McCain sitting next to Rep. Kendrick Meek at an ACORN event. The very same ACORN his campaign now rails against and is accusing of trying to "steal" the election for Obama
Miami, Florida – February 20, 2006 ― Leaders from a diverse array of sectors will hold a rally in Miami on Thursday, February 23, 2006, in support of comprehensive immigration reform in an effort to keep immigration reform at the forefront of the public debate. Leaders from both political parties, immigrant communities, labor, business, and religious organizations will gather to call on Washington to enact workable reform.
The rally will feature Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) as the headline speaker along with elected officials, immigrants and key local and national leaders. Sen. McCain is one of the chief sponsors of the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act; bipartisan, comprehensive immigration reform legislation introduced last Congress and scheduled for consideration by the Senate in the coming weeks. A similar rally with Sen. McCain is planned for New York City on February 27
The rally in Miami is being sponsored by the New American Opportunity campaign (NAOC) in partnership with ACORN, Catholic Legal Services - Archdiocese of Miami, Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center, Florida Immigrant Coalition, Miami Dade College, People for the American Way/Mi Familia Vota en Acción, Service Employees International Union, and UNITE HERE. McCain attended ACORN rally | Crooks and Liars
Saturday Night Live couldn't make up shit this good. Attending a rally at which Acorn members were present, and being on the board of Acorn, defending ACorn in court, training Acorn leaders, contributing hundreds of thousands of dollars to "the cause", being endorsed by Acorn, and priding yourself on being a "community organizer" which is, of course, Acorn's middle name, are two different things, bozo.
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Rep Power: 39 | | Dave, I am so glad that the far right hasn't hijacked the republican party. Quote: the weak minded DEM populace will vote for a dead chicken if it promises them enough handouts at the expense of the 'evil rich'
The weak minded repub populace are dead chickens who never got their promised land.
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiamondDave Hitler was elected too... popularity, public hysteria, and the gullibility of the public are powerful things.... the weak minded DEM populace will vote for a dead chicken if it promises them enough handouts at the expense of the 'evil rich' What the hell they gonna do when the Evil Rich liquify their assets and funnel them to offshore accounts and live on their yachts in international waters??? where in hell will OBAMA get his Robinhood socialist tax dollars then????
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Quote: Originally Posted by AllieBaba Attending a rally at which Acorn members were present, and being on the board of Acorn, defending ACorn in court, training Acorn leaders, and priding yourself on being a "community organizer" which is, of course, Acorn's middle name, are two different things, bozo. Sure it is you brain-dead turd .. that's why McCain is doing so well and America is just clamoring for more ACORN bullshit from brain-dead idiots like yourself.
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiamondDave Oh GOD is that laughable.. there has not been a powerful or prominent moderate DEM in YEARS.... the current DEM party and DEM agenda is definitely run by and beholden to the far left Damn, that's not just dumb, it's absolutely ignorant.
What do you think Bill Clinton was?
What do you think the DLC is?
Damn
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal Damn, that's not just dumb, it's absolutely ignorant.
What do you think Bill Clinton was?
What do you think the DLC is?
Damn But... but... but... if they say it often enough, doesn't that make it true?!?!?!
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Quote: Originally Posted by jillian But... but... but... if they say it often enough, doesn't that make it true?!?!?! 
Only if they click their heels 3 times when they say it.
He didn't click his heels.
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Quote: Originally Posted by jillian But... but... but... if they say it often enough, doesn't that make it true?!?!?!  Thats reversed demogogish BS | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal Sure it is you brain-dead turd .. that's why McCain is doing so well and America is just clamoring for more ACORN bullshit from brain-dead idiots like yourself. Tell Acorn and their employees. Obama's calling for heads on a platter as well, Acorn has shelled out tens of thousands of dollars in settlement money, 8 Acorn members are on trial..and last I heard at least one had plead guilty and others are in jail.
America is clamoring for it. It will be funny to see how every single "disenfrancised voter" ever bemoaned by the leftist voter fraud machine, which includes the idiots who want it to continue, was either dead, an illegal immigrant, non-human, or one of 1200 with the exact same stats.
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Quote: Originally Posted by AllieBaba Tell Acorn and their employees. Obama's calling for heads on a platter as well, Acorn has shelled out tens of thousands of dollars in settlement money, 8 Acorn members are on trial..and last I heard at least one had plead guilty and others are in jail.
America is clamoring for it. It will be funny to see how every single "disenfrancised voter" ever bemoaned by the leftist voter fraud machine, which includes the idiots who want it to continue, was either dead, an illegal immigrant, non-human, or one of 1200 with the exact same stats. Itll all come out in the wash, watch what happens when OBAMA windsup in Federal prison...hint better get your guns real close to home... |  | |
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