The Wall Comes Crashing Down - GOP insiders predicting Obama Victory

I will enjoy it immensely.

We will get out of Iraq and begin to develop alternative energy.

You do realize that Democrats actually have a chance to get 60 seats by the time this election is over?

And Obama isn't a "relatively weak politician."

Unless you can find loads of politicians that have beaten the Clinton machine in their career?

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It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
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keep dreaming

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Yes. I'm talking about 2010.

Obama is a very weak politician. He's the most inexperience politicians in more than a hundred years to run for President. Furthermore, he flip-flops on major issues to get votes. He should be easily manipulated if he wins.

The Clinton machine, as you call it, only works if there is a spoiler candidate like Ross Perot.

bullshit.

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"Nothing is more unreliable than the populace, nothing more obscure than human intentions, nothing more deceptive than the whole electoral system."- Marcus Tullius Cicero

True dat, blood.

does anyone really think anything will change? do you really? i dont. i see it as just smoke and mirrors the two party system and all..nothing changes...only the names to protect the innocent.

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No. Because the parties are now Populist and Populist lite with fringe issues for extra flavor.

We will have an agreement to be out in X amount of years. But the signing of it will be heralded as great accomplishment.

We will not have and alternative to oil and coal in 8 years no matter who is elected.

Why do so many people treat politics as if it were a sport? They take more pride in their side winning than the actual results of who they elect. I'm sure which ever side wins will be here gloating November 5th that there team won and they're better than the losers.

Some honest questions for the supporters of either candidate.

Isn't McCain just a more "liberal" version of GWB? (btw Bush is Neocon NOT a conservative)

What is Obama going to "fix" from the Bush administration? Is he going to repeal the patriot act? Is he going to correct all of things the Bush did to defy the constitution?

What is Obama going to "fix" from the Bush administration?

Everything

Is he going to repeal the patriot act?

Hopefully

Is he going to correct all of things the Bush did to defy the constitution?

Absolutely

I think things are changing DEPITE the best efforts of the insider party to keep a lid on things, personally.

like what?

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Who is John Galt?

Like the banking system for one, but really the whole damned set of paradigms currently passing as smart economics.

Oh, I know that currently the insiders are planning on bailing out the banks in the hopes that the band will play on while they find some safe harbors for their cash, but there really are no safe harbors, so that strategy is not going to work much longer.

Sooner or later the insiders (worldwide) are going to come to realize that they cannot continue getting richer and richer by dominating governments and raping the working classes.

Eventually they're recognize, as their grandfathers did in the last great worldwide depression, that there has to be a balance between what the working class makes and what the master class are making.

Sooner or later some clever economist is going to prove that there is a direct connection between profits on Wall Street and a healthy economy on Maine street.

Sooner or later some clever economist is going to prove that over inflated stock prices (or real estate prices, or bond prices or any prices of investments of any kind) are just as disruptive (and inflationary) to a healthy economy as the cost of labor climbing too quickly.

Sooner or later somebody is going to realize that just as we need capital ready willing and able to invest in new projects and new industries, so too do we need a healthy and well educated and basically happy working class ready willing and able to become part of the new economies that are going to become a continuous development of this highly technical and rapidly changing world.

We keep stop applying the rules of scarcity to our economy when in fact our economy is more often screwed up by abundance than by scarcity.

This is the 21st century, not the 15th and the cooner we recognize that fact, the sooner we can rethink the social contract which is a tad outdated and cuasing us these boom and bust cycles.

Time to rethink nearly everything we think we know about economics.

the answers to our problem will NOT be found by studying the economic thoughts of people like Adam Smith, folks.

He was right for his time and his economy, but there is damned little economic similarity between his 18th century and our 21st.

A weak politician? Really? He is somehow the "most inexperienced politician to run in more than a hundred years", but is going to win anyway, and that makes him weak? That makes him damned skilled at what he does.

So who exactly was the spoiler candidate in 1996 when Clinton won with 49.24% of the vote?

Bullshit yourself...

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well put. Carter was the worst president domestically in my lifetime. full stop.

his only accomplishment of note was the Camp David accords, and i give him credit for that. otherwise, horrible. nice man, terrible president.

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"Nothing is more unreliable than the populace, nothing more obscure than human intentions, nothing more deceptive than the whole electoral system."- Marcus Tullius Cicero