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10-05-2008, 06:19 PM
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Rep Power: 220 | | | Guy who requested $740 million in earmarks on Palin: You can’t really be for change i Indeed. To truly represent change, you have to request earmarks for your wife’s employer.
I was hoping against hope that he’d come after her on this point. And now, my dream’s come true.
Obama then went point by point through education, tax policy, energy policy and health care telling voters why McCain’s version of change is not change like the kind he will bring.
Obama then opened up rare criticism on VP nominee Sarah Palin, “I know the governor of Alaska has been, you know, saying she is change. And that is great. She is a skillful politician. But when you been taking all these earmarks when it is convenient and then suddenly you are the champion anti-earmark person. That is not change, come on. I mean, words mean something. You can’t just make stuff up. You can’t just make stuff up. We have a choice to make and the choice is clear.”
She’s not the “champion anti-earmark person,” Barry. McCain is. The ball having been placed on the tee, Team Maverick swings away: Hot Air Blog Archive Guy who requested $740 million in earmarks on Palin: You can’t really be for change if you’re pro-earmark
A million dollars a day request for every working day in the senate.. my my my oh my | 
10-05-2008, 06:21 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by WillowTree Indeed. To truly represent change, you have to request earmarks for your wife’s employer.
I was hoping against hope that he’d come after her on this point. And now, my dream’s come true.
Obama then went point by point through education, tax policy, energy policy and health care telling voters why McCain’s version of change is not change like the kind he will bring.
Obama then opened up rare criticism on VP nominee Sarah Palin, “I know the governor of Alaska has been, you know, saying she is change. And that is great. She is a skillful politician. But when you been taking all these earmarks when it is convenient and then suddenly you are the champion anti-earmark person. That is not change, come on. I mean, words mean something. You can’t just make stuff up. You can’t just make stuff up. We have a choice to make and the choice is clear.”
She’s not the “champion anti-earmark person,” Barry. McCain is. The ball having been placed on the tee, Team Maverick swings away: Hot Air Blog Archive Guy who requested $740 million in earmarks on Palin: You can’t really be for change if you’re pro-earmark
A million dollars a day request for every working day in the senate.. my my my oh my Do you have a list of those "earmarks?" Do you know what they were for? Could it be that pork barrel spending isn't always about $18 million for wooden arrows and it's sometimes more about infrastructure, security, civic centers, education, research, etc. Earmarks are not a bad thing most of the time. There are, of course, bad ones.
And if your candidate is so much against earmarks, why did he vote for them? | 
10-05-2008, 06:22 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by DavidS Do you have a list of those "earmarks?" Do you know what they were for? Could it be that pork barrel spending isn't always about $18 million for wooden arrows and it's sometimes more about infrastructure, security, civic centers, education, research, etc. Earmarks are not a bad thing most of the time. There are, of course, bad ones.
And if your candidate is so much against earmarks, why did he vote for them?
why did I so expect this reaction! | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by WillowTree why did I so expect this reaction!  Are you going to answer my question or just be arrogant? | 
10-05-2008, 06:39 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by DavidS Are you going to answer my question or just be arrogant?
I think I will choose to just be arrogant. Your reaction leads me to believe that anything I might say to you will be viewed as hogwash. What do you think of a million dollars per day? | 
10-05-2008, 06:54 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by DavidS Do you have a list of those "earmarks?" I typed in 'Obama' and 'Earmarks'. Here's the first hit: Obama Lists His Earmarks, Asking Clinton for Hers | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by DavidS Do you have a list of those "earmarks?" Do you know what they were for? Could it be that pork barrel spending isn't always about $18 million for wooden arrows and it's sometimes more about infrastructure, security, civic centers, education, research, etc. Earmarks are not a bad thing most of the time. There are, of course, bad ones.
And if your candidate is so much against earmarks, why did he vote for them? I know one of Obama's earmarks was for one million for the hospital where Michelle works.
As for the "wooden arrows" this was not an earmark. It was to extend a tax cut. Letting people keep their money is not a bad thing.
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OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I've said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by DavidS Are you going to answer my question or just be arrogant? One word: Google
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ABC'S CHARLIE GIBSON: In each instance, when the Capital Gains rate was dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down. So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?
OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I've said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by The Paperboy One word: Google I don't know whre else you post, but it doesn't work that way here. You say it, you own it, you prove it.
Not that difficult.
She just can't ever prove what she posts.... you know, those misstatements and all.
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Quote: Originally Posted by jillian I don't know whre else you post, but it doesn't work that way here. You say it, you own it, you prove it.
Not that difficult.
She just can't ever prove what she posts.... you know, those misstatements and all.
hey asswipe. I posted the article I wanted to post. If you want more go get it yourself. We ain't yer damn slaves. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by WillowTree why did I so expect this reaction!  Because you knew what you were posting was nonsense? | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Larkinn Because you knew what you were posting was nonsense? no I didn't but I knew idiots would answer | 
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