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Quote: Originally Posted by WillowTree View Post
How many did McCain ask for?
He hasn't needed to ask for that many. The other Senator from Arizona asked for nearly $100 million in earmarks in 2007.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Larkinn View Post
Sure they are when they are aimed towards specific industries in specific states.
A tax cut means a person/industry/company gets to keep more of its' money. The money is the persons/industries/companies money, not the governments, that is, until the government takes it from the person/industry/company and earmarks it for another person/industry/company.

Earmark is Australian for "buying votes".
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ABC'S CHARLIE GIBSON: In each instance, when the Capital Gains rate was dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down. So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?

OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I've said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Silence View Post
Gov Palin asked for how many earmarks in one year?

Nation & World | Palin's earmark requests: more per person than any other state | Seattle Times Newspaper



I find it amusing to say the least that ya'll are so clearly desparate at this point.
In 18 months Palin cut earmarks by 50%.
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ABC'S CHARLIE GIBSON: In each instance, when the Capital Gains rate was dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down. So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?

OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I've said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.
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Quote: Originally Posted by WillowTree View Post
would you rather it had failed? I do.
The problem with you, Willow is that you're not paying attention.

The bill passed 75-24 on Wednesday. If John McCain would've voted no, the bill would've passed 74-25. John McCain's vote was irrelevant except for the fact that he voted YES for $150 billion worth of earmarks. If McCain would've voted no, the bill would've still passed but it would've made HUGE news all over the country and probably could've gotten him the White House. Instead, he says one thing and does another.
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Quote: Originally Posted by WillowTree View Post
hey asswipe. I posted the article I wanted to post. If you want more go get it yourself. We ain't yer damn slaves.
Slaves? LOL... in other words, you lie like a rug and expect us to prove you wrong.

yah... we'll go do that. sure...

dunno, maybe he's as stupid as you. somehow, i don't think so. As for your "articles"... I'm sure they ARe what you want because they're pretty vapid.
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Quote: Originally Posted by DavidS View Post
Yep... American Red Cross, $5 million. You're right - Obama is a horrible human being!!
Don't shoot the messenger! Someone asked for a list of the earmarks and here they are. (Or should I say 'hear' they are?)
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Quote: Originally Posted by WillowTree View Post
but try to focus. He hasn't asked for a red cent for the state of Arizona.
Oh really? Then what's this story about?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...cainland_N.htm

AND Palin, his running mate has Palin has more more earmarks request per person than any other state. Mind you, the city of Houston, TX has a larger population than the state of Alaska.

Nation & World | Palin's earmark requests: more per person than any other state | Seattle Times Newspaper
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Don't shoot the messenger! Someone asked for a list of the earmarks and here they are. (Or should I say 'hear' they are?)
What's the matter with you? That's money that the Red Cross NEEDS.
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Quote: Originally Posted by The Paperboy View Post
A tax cut means a person/industry/company gets to keep more of its' money. The money is the persons/industries/companies money, not the governments, that is, until the government takes it from the person/industry/company and earmarks it for another person/industry/company.

Earmark is Australian for "buying votes".
And John McCain voted FOR $150 billion worth of earmarks. This is, after he promised to veto ANY bill that had earmarks. So which is it? Is he going to start rejecting earmarks after he becomes president or did he not even read that bill that he just signed?
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Slaves? LOL... in other words, you lie like a rug and expect us to prove you wrong.

yah... we'll go do that. sure...

dunno, maybe he's as stupid as you. somehow, i don't think so. As for your "articles"... I'm sure they ARe what you want because they're pretty vapid.
I'm not wrong asswipe. if I am prove it.
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Quote: Originally Posted by DavidS View Post
And John McCain voted FOR $150 billion worth of earmarks. This is, after he promised to veto ANY bill that had earmarks. So which is it? Is he going to start rejecting earmarks after he becomes president or did he not even read that bill that he just signed?


he didn't ask for any earmarks for the state of Arizona.
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Quote: Originally Posted by WillowTree View Post
he didn't ask for any earmarks for the state of Arizona.
Are you serious? I mean, are your standards that low for a person you have to find out what the meaning of "is" is? Come on, Willow. This was his promise at the RNC.

"MCCAIN: I've fought the big spenders...I've fought the big spenders in both parties, who waste your money on things you neither need nor want, and the first big-spending pork-barrel earmark bill that comes across my desk, I will veto it. I will make them famous, and you will know their names. You will know their names."

Why is he saying that he will veto a bill that he just signed on for? Will he add his name to the list of names we will know? Come on, Willow. You seem like an intelligent gal - PLEASE tell me you're not looking the other way on this.
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Quote: Originally Posted by The Paperboy View Post
A tax cut means a person/industry/company gets to keep more of its' money. The money is the persons/industries/companies money, not the governments, that is, until the government takes it from the person/industry/company and earmarks it for another person/industry/company.

Earmark is Australian for "buying votes".
Semantics. Whether the government takes money from you and then gives it back, or just takes less is the same damn thing.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Larkinn View Post
Semantics. Whether the government takes money from you and then gives it back, or just takes less is the same damn thing.
If that's what you believe God help ya.
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ABC'S CHARLIE GIBSON: In each instance, when the Capital Gains rate was dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down. So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?

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If that's what you believe God help ya.
Its not "belief" its fact. Whether the government takes $50 and gives you $30 is the exact same thing as if the government takes $20.
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