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10-01-2008, 09:25 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Silence  well then....Obama is working class too... McCain is not...thanks for the clarification Willow...it's most helpful.. 
that works for me. McCain would not have to work another day in his life if he didn't choose to. Obama probably still has to work. |
10-01-2008, 09:32 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by DavidS
A combined income of $215,000 a year is NOT working class. They're in the top 5% of Americans as far as income.
And can someone please tell her that savings accounts aren't affected by the stock market???
Would not anyone that works be considered working class? It has nothing to do with income. Someone that is so wealthy that they travel and just live off the money that they have is not working class. Someone who collects welfare and chooses not to work is also not included in the working class. |
10-01-2008, 09:48 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by HoleInTheVoid If you work on the North Slope you make 6 figures...AND work your ass off. You have no clue how many ways there are to die out there. So who the @#$% cares if they make $215k. 
Even if you could use that for a argument, guess what?
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10-01-2008, 09:49 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by bornright Would not anyone that works be considered working class? It has nothing to do with income. Someone that is so wealthy that they travel and just live off the money that they have is not working class. Someone who collects welfare and chooses not to work is also not included in the working class. is that your spin? words have actual meaning... you don't get to change them because you wake up one day and feel like: Quote: working class
n. The socioeconomic class consisting of people who work for wages, especially low wages, including unskilled and semiskilled laborers and their families.
In the United States, the population of blue-collar workers, particularly skilled and semiskilled laborers, who differ in values, but not necessarily in income, from the middle class. In Marxism, this term refers to propertyless factory workers. working class: Definition from Answers.com
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10-01-2008, 09:50 AM
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Rep Power: 181 | | Joe Biden barely makes more money then her then. Perhaps that's why she won't release her tax returns until the day AFTER the debate. CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Biden tax returns revealed - Blogs from CNN.com Quote: At least half the nation’s senators are millionaires. But Biden and his wife Jill earned a relatively small $320,000 in 2006, paying about $66,000 in taxes. Over the last 10 years Biden and his wife earned just shy of $2.5 million — an average income of roughly $245,000 per year.
A McCain aide told CNN Friday the campaign would release Palin's documents, but on their "own timeframe."
The Bidens' returns do not specify the various sources of the income, but the Delaware Democrat earns $165,000 per year as a senator and draws roughly $20,000 annually from his visiting law professorship at Widener University. Jill Biden is a teacher in Delaware and draws a salary of about $66,000. The 2007 tax returns also indicate Biden earned $71,000 in royalties for his book "Promises to Keep."  |
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Nope: In 1997, it wasn't 215.000.00 I doubt if it has gone that high in 2008.
Obama is a Senator, not working class income.
McCain is worth 60,000,000 - Definately not working class
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Quote: Originally Posted by WillowTree Not bending the truth at all. Do your research. Family of seven living in Alaska. Ok. I did my search. define:Working Class - Google Search
People doing heavy manual work, usually for low wages, such as farm labourers, miners, builders and factory workers. |
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Rep Power: 58 | | | ok, so any guy in a shirt and tie busting his ass making 40-60k a year working 50 hours a week isn't working class
I am glad we got that figured out |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Andrew2382 ok, so any guy in a shirt and tie busting his ass making 40-60k a year working 50 hours a week isn't working class
I am glad we got that figured out No snookums, that would be MIDDLE class.
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10-01-2008, 10:10 AM
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Rep Power: 12 | | | Debate Solved!! I just saw a speech by Obama where he asked the crowd to raise their hand if they made over $250,000.00 Then he said "If you make less than $250,000.00 you will not see an increase in taxes" We are taking care of the "Middle Class"
So there it is Obama says you're middle class if you make less than two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.It's got to be true.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Andrew2382 ok, so any guy in a shirt and tie busting his ass making 40-60k a year working 50 hours a week isn't working class
I am glad we got that figured out
sometimes we just let our dictionaries get outdated don't we. |
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Quote: Originally Posted by DavidS Palin says she represents 'Joe Six-pack' - Yahoo! News
A combined income of $215,000 a year is NOT working class. They're in the top 5% of Americans as far as income.
And can someone please tell her that savings accounts aren't affected by the stock market??? Obviously you are are the one who decides what working class is so what is it? |
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Quote: Originally Posted by DavidS Palin says she represents 'Joe Six-pack' - Yahoo! News
A combined income of $215,000 a year is NOT working class. They're in the top 5% of Americans as far as income.
And can someone please tell her that savings accounts aren't affected by the stock market??? Obama tried to raise taxes on people making less then 50000 a year so I guess middle class is what? 30k a year?
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