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09-25-2008, 12:51 PM
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Rep Power: 205 | | | it helps because more people are going to be watching the Mohamed Ali treatment of John Mccain. | 
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Rep Power: 1 | | | Obama's only strong point will be on Pakistan.
Other than that
McCain will get him on his flip flopping over Iraq...the surge...his response to Russian aggression, and Iran.
McCain will take the debate. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Shogun It's funny because Sonny Liston tried dirty tactics in their fight too.
However, I think like Ali that Obama will rise above in the end.
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09-25-2008, 02:54 PM
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Rep Power: 397 | | | In looking at how people voted, I'm thinking that perhaps it does nothing to entrenched voters... but nothing's going to change those votes anyway.
And I'm not sure if the undecideds really understand it or care.
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09-25-2008, 05:28 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by jillian And I'm not sure if the undecideds really understand it or care. I think your right. But it's going to be interesting. The Reagan/Carter 1980 debate had the highest viewership of any Presidential Debate with 80 million. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see that record not just broken, but shattered on friday. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Missourian I think your right. But it's going to be interesting. The Reagan/Carter 1980 debate had the highest viewership of any Presidential Debate with 80 million. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see that record not just broken, but shattered on friday. I agree. It's going to be shattered on Friday....and then again when Biden and Palin debate. You know, though, I think that's a good thing. One of my favorite political types ever used to tell me that politics are a full contact team sport. I think it's only fair that they should be a spectator sport, too.
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09-25-2008, 05:44 PM
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Rep Power: 68 | | | 141 million people watched the Super Bowl. 80 million should be easy, but it IS on a Friday. So, we'll see.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Elyk88 Obama's only strong point will be on Pakistan.
Other than that
McCain will get him on his flip flopping over Iraq...the surge...his response to Russian aggression, and Iran.
McCain will take the debate. Obama was right about Iraq before we invaded. I think you are underestimating or ignoring how powerful that is going to play in the foreign policy debate. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by jsanders 141 million people watched the Super Bowl. 80 million should be easy, but it IS on a Friday. So, we'll see.
I have my doubts too ...
Friday + the uncertainty of it even happening = not sure 80 million watch | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Article 15 Obama was right about Iraq before we invaded. I think you are underestimating or ignoring how powerful that is going to play in the foreign policy debate. No, Obama wasn't right. Obama, like the rest of the country, thought they had nuclear capabilities, and he STILL didn't want to invade. That tells me he doesn't care about national security.
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09-25-2008, 06:01 PM
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Rep Power: 56 | | Quote: Originally Posted by Barack Obama
Now let me be clear I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity.
Hes a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.
But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.
I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.
I am not opposed to all wars. Im opposed to dumb wars. Sounds pretty spot on to me.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Elyk88 McCain will get him on his flip flopping over Iraq...the surge...his response to Russian aggression, and Iran.
McCain will take the debate. Obama will get to explain that paying the sunnis and shiite for a truce also helped lower violence, and some of those truces are ending, and we are running out of money.
Were paying $20 billion a month in iraq and mccain wants to stay 4 yrs longer than obama. And you think he wins that?
Mccain also helped in borrowing $1 billion from china, IN TODAYS WORLD MARKET! and sent it to Georgia. And not the one in the USA, and you think that's a winner?
You're gonna say mccain won no matter what. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by sealybobo Obama will get to explain that paying the sunnis and shiite for a truce also helped lower violence, and some of those truces are ending, and we are running out of money.
Were paying $20 billion a month in iraq and mccain wants to stay 4 yrs longer than obama. And you think he wins that?
Mccain also helped in borrowing $1 billion from china, IN TODAYS WORLD MARKET! and sent it to Georgia. And not the one in the USA, and you think that's a winner?
You're gonna say mccain won no matter what.
I think if Obama gets bogged down in ^ that quagmire during the debate, he can join Gore and Kerry, the three democrats who almost became president. |  | |
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