Sexism in a subtle way

Well don't sell the man short. He was a single father of two boys but I'm sure he was able to balance it.

There's a difference in jobs between Senator and Vice President.

Bristol and Levi are 17/18, you really think they are going to be raising that kid all on their own? If so, you really are drinking too much of the GOP kool-aid.

Levi doesn't even want his kids for the record. Sarah and Todd will of course help Bristol raise the child while she gets an education at some fancy college.

There's also a difference between raising a 2 and 3 year old boy by yourself as a single father and raising a seventeen year old who's pregnant, a twelve year old, a seven year old, and a less then a year old baby with down's syndrome. Husband or not, it's not easy raising 4 kids, especially one who needs extra attention and care.

How about you just wait to see if Obama fires the guy or makes him explain his answer. Can you withhold your anger until then?

17 and 18 year olds do it all the time, raise a child. Sure she will still be Bristol's parent but to assume they can't do it, is baseless.

I will wait and see what happens to this guy. We'll see...
Why Hasn’t Obama Fired Howard Gutman? : Stop The ACLU

You know, that doesn't seem like a credible and valid source to me Jreeves.

17 and 18 year olds do raise a child all the time out of wedlock (least at first). The GOP likes to condemn when people do that, but not Bristol! I'm not assuming they can't do it, but Bristol has a responsibility to finish her education and raise her child. There's only so many hours in a day.

As I said already in this thread, if he said a sexist comment then he deserves to be fired. I don't tolerate ignorance or sexist/racist remarks outside this board or on it.

That's why I even brought up in that thread that I won't mention here Jreeves.

ok, thats not the first time you've done this, enough with the GOP koolaid BS since there are way more DEMS on the koolaid than members of the GOP
in case you hadnt noticed, until the pick of Palin, a lot of republicans were either thinking of voting 3rd party(ME for one) or were staying home

So he picked Palin and now you drink from the Kool-Aid that McCain is all of a sudden the best choice.

I'm not on any kool-aid since I've made several comments about several Democrats on this board in my short time here.

The choice of Palin for VP also drove plenty of independents to the Democrats or to just stay home on Election Day.

wrong, we don't condemn them, not condoning it is not the same thing

*Pulls the lever* The Right Wing Spin stops here.

YouTube - Obama says families 'off-limits'

He spoke out against it. What else do you want the guy to do? Go around shooting people who decide to speak their mind?

Also, do not even compare Joe Biden as a father to Sarah Palin as a mother. Joe Biden lost his first wife and his daughter. Yet he had the courage and stength to not only continue on but raised his two boys as a single father. Not only that but he continued to be in the senate, taking the train as mentioned above because he wanted to make a difference.

Barack Obama hit the nail on the head when it came to Joe Biden.

This is how the Republican cheerleader feels about teen pregancies:

YouTube - Obama on The Factor! Will Bill O'Reilly Attack?

Doublethink my friends, Sarah Palin isn't a widower and she has a husband to help raise her kids.

Again, if your going to try and spin that the Obama Campaign has "subtle sexism" then at least have some truth to back up. Just not opinion and BS.

And yet when Bush or McCain speak out against similar goings on, you leftoids insist it is just a ploy. Go figure.

You mean when they say families shouldn't be targeted in Political campaigns?

And feel free to help dive out in the post that's right above yours.

This has nothing to do with gender, whether Todd Palin was the nominee or Sarah Palin was the nominee," Gutman said. "If my daughter had just come home at 17 years old and said, 'Mom, Dad, I'm pregnant, we have a family problem,' I wouldn't say, 'You know what we're going to do? We're going to take this private family problem...and you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to go on the international stage and broadcast this to the world.'"

Gutman continued, "this wasn't a working mother issue, this was a parent issue…The proper attack is not that a woman shouldn't run for vice president with five kids, it's that a parent, when they have a family in need, a Down's baby who needs them -- mother or father."

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Obama....
Obviously, she's — a fine — mother and — up-and-coming public servant.
Ben Smith's Blog: Obama on Palin: "A fine mother and an up-and-coming public servant" - Politico.com


Instead, night after night, week after week, year after year, he returned home to Wilmington on a lonely Amtrak train when his Senate business was done. He raised his boys - first as a single dad, then alongside his wonderful wife Jill, who works as a teacher. He had a beautiful daughter. Now his children are grown and Joe is blessed with 5grandchildren. He instilled in them such a sense of public service that his son, Beau, who is now Delaware's Attorney General, is getting ready to deploy to Iraq. And he still takes that train back to Wilmington every night. Out of the heartbreak of that unspeakable accident, he did more than become a Senator - he raised a family. That is the measure of the man standing next to me. That is the character of Joe Biden.
RealClearPolitics - Articles - Remarks Introducing Joe Biden

Thanks Obama campaign for being such sexists, of course Obama wouldn't come out and question whether or not she could be a mother. But Obama instead leaves it up to surrogates to do the dirty work. Change that we can believe in------

Palin is the mother of 5 children, one with Down's syndrome. If Biden can do it so can Palin. The only motivation for suggesting that she couldn't would be solely based in sexism.

In 2004 we all listened to you leftoids claim Bush was secretly behind the swiftboat vets and now we listen to you claim that McCain is behind any off color attack against Obama. No matter what he says. He condemned an add in North Carolina and ask it be removed and yet you all insisted he was just saying that for the press.

As usual a bunch of hypocrites, go ahead look that word up too.

He condemned an add in North Carolina and ask it be removed ...

That was an honorable position on his part. I wish there was more of that sort of stuff from him.

I wish he had stuck to his guns and gone with Lieberman, who would be ready to step in on day one and has incredible foreign polcy experience.

The choice of Palin for VP also drove plenty of independents to the Democrats or to just stay home on Election Day.

In Joe Biden, Obama revealed his core temperamental conservatism. It was a safe choice of someone deeply versed in foreign policy, and with roots that connected to the working class white ethnics he needed. It wasn't flashy; and was even a little underwhelming; but it was highly professional.

What we have learned about John McCain from his selection of Sarah Palin is that he is as impulsive and reckless a decision-maker as George W. Bush. We know this not because of what we have learned about this Pentecostalist populist since she exploded on the scene last Friday morning (and God knows we have learned more than we ever wanted). We know it because of how McCain made the decision. He wanted his best friend, Joe Lieberman, the former Democratic vice-presidential candidate for Al Gore. That pick would have been remarkable for its bipartisan nature, would have impressed independents, and signaled a centrist presidency centered on foreign policy. It would have been bold while not being rash.