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uh, already done many posts ago, moron
she asked about the procedures, never asked for a book to be banned
Then why exactly did you neg rep Anguille because she didn't like that Palin even asked?
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huh?
UN Res 1441 ... Robert was looking for other justifications for invading Iraq ...
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UN Res 1441 ... Robert was looking for other justifications for invading Iraq ...
ah, oh, there was a slew of them, 667 and 668 was as well, wasnt it?

also firing on US planes in the no fly zones
violations of the cease-fire agreement
the human rights issues for the Iraqi's

and after we liberated them, we found the violations on the Oil for Food program
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ah, oh, there was a slew of them, 667 and 668 was as well, wasnt it?

also firing on US planes in the no fly zones
violations of the cease-fire agreement
the human rights issues for the Iraqi's

and after we liberated them, we found the violations on the Oil for Food program
Ayup ...

But WMD was the bait that got the American public hooked ...

Personally, I don't think that the administration could have sold the war without it ...
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ah, oh, there was a slew of them, 667 and 668 was as well, wasnt it?

also firing on US planes in the no fly zones
violations of the cease-fire agreement
the human rights issues for the Iraqi's

and after we liberated them, we found the violations on the Oil for Food program
Firing on US planes in the no fly zones, link to that? I'm not saying it's false but I'd like to see a link.

Violation of the cease-fire agreement and the human rights issues for the Iraqi eh? I'm sorry, but remind me where the United States are the world police?

How come we're not invading China instead of giving them the olympics if you want to see Human rights issues for the reason being to invade Iraq.

And violations for the Oil for Food program. Don't tell me you were honestly surprised.

Say you take 100% of all aid given to countries,etc. How much of that aid you actually thinks get to the citizens in countries like Iraq, certain middle eastern countries, or African countries?
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Firing on US planes in the no fly zones, link to that? I'm not saying it's false but I'd like to see a link.

Violation of the cease-fire agreement and the human rights issues for the Iraqi eh? I'm sorry, but remind me where the United States are the world police?

How come we're not invading China instead of giving them the olympics if you want to see Human rights issues for the reason being to invade Iraq.

And violations for the Oil for Food program. Don't tell me you were honestly surprised.

Say you take 100% of all aid given to countries,etc. How much of that aid you actually thinks get to the citizens in countries like Iraq, certain middle eastern countries, or African countries?
well, i'm not going to hunt for links to the firing on US and UK planes, that one should be a common knowledge thing

never said we were the world police, and that is why we're not invading China, but with Iraq, we had the cease-fire agreements

as to O4F, no, im not surprised, the fact that Saddam was running the WMD "inspectors" like the keystone cops means i would not put anything past Saddams attempts


on the note of "inspectors" their missions was not to FIND WMD, theirs was to confirm what was already KNOWN to have existed, was destroyed and documented
Saddam didnt allow them to do that
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well, i'm not going to hunt for links to the firing on US and UK planes, that one should be a common knowledge thing

never said we were the world police, and that is why we're not invading China, but with Iraq, we had the cease-fire agreements

as to O4F, no, im not surprised, the fact that Saddam was running the WMD "inspectors" like the keystone cops means i would not put anything past Saddams attempts


on the note of "inspectors" their missions was not to FIND WMD, theirs was to confirm what was already KNOWN to have existed, was destroyed and documented
Saddam didnt allow them to do that
Well I haven't read about the US/UK planes being fired in a no fly zone in awhile. Here's one thing I found on the subject:

Middle East Report Online: No-Fly Zones: Rhetoric and Real Intentions , by Sarah Graham-Brown.

You can't use the point of Human rights as a reason we invaded Iraq. That's all I'm saying on that issue because we aren't invading even 1/4 of the countries that currently have their human rights abused.

Two of the biggest reasons we went into Iraq were:

1.) Saddam had massive amount of WMDs and was going to use them on the US.

2.) Saddam was connected to Osama Bin Laden with the attack on 9/11. (Which also turned out to be a falsehood.)
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The top two reasons why we were going into Iraq were those two, the American people were lied to and now 4,000+ lives have been lost due to those lies.
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Well I haven't read about the US/UK planes being fired in a no fly zone in awhile. Here's one thing I found on the subject:

Middle East Report Online: No-Fly Zones: Rhetoric and Real Intentions , by Sarah Graham-Brown.

You can't use the point of Human rights as a reason we invaded Iraq. That's all I'm saying on that issue because we aren't invading even 1/4 of the countries that currently have their human rights abused.

Two of the biggest reasons we went into Iraq were:

1.) Saddam had massive amount of WMDs and was going to use them on the US.

2.) Saddam was connected to Osama Bin Laden with the attack on 9/11. (Which also turned out to be a falsehood.)
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The top two reasons why we were going into Iraq were those two, the American people were lied to and now 4,000+ lives have been lost due to those lies.
actually, that secoind one was not a lie
look into the O4F thing a little closer
seems he was using that to put funds into al qaeda front companies
we have no data proving any connection to 9/11, but there were connections
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The "Palin tried to Ban Books" is yet another of the lies spread by the Left which now sits in the 'debunked' pile... Turns out the list of books she supposedly tried to ban included books which were yet to be published...

But isn't it wild how the thread was hijacked with tired complaints spewing the same tired lies that the US liberation of Iraq was illegal?

It's very much akin to the denials by Hussein's campaign that he was 'NEVER a Muslim...' have disappeared since the proof that this is a lie, proven by the numerous documents wherein his Mother lists him as a Muslim and interviews by those that knew him, teachers and faily friends that stated emphatically that he was a Muslim.
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The "Palin tried to Ban Books" is yet another of the lies spread by the Left which now sits in the 'debunked' pile... Turns out the list of books she supposedly tried to ban included books which were yet to be published...

But isn't it wild how the thread was hijacked with tired complaints spewing the same tired lies that the US liberation of Iraq was illegal?

It's very much akin to the denials by Hussein's campaign that he was 'NEVER a Muslim...' have disappeared since the proof that this is a lie, proven by the numerous documents wherein his Mother lists him as a Muslim and interviews by those that knew him, teachers and faily friends that stated emphatically that he was a Muslim.
Actually the Iraq thing started out with me making a sarcastic comment to Dive about neg repping people who "believe lies."

And then it has come to this. Personally, I'm ready to go back to the original topic anytime Dive is ready.
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actually, that secoind one was not a lie
look into the O4F thing a little closer
seems he was using that to put funds into al qaeda front companies
we have no data proving any connection to 9/11, but there were connections
Perhaps you are referring to this?

Hot Air Blog Archive Saddam supported at least two al-Qaeda groups: Pentagon Update: What it means

Saddam and Osama basically ran in the same groups. That doesn't mean that Saddam was directly supporting Osama. If anything, Osama hated Saddam.

Though I found this, quite interesting.

Brother Socrates and Kids: The War in Iraq
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Actually the Iraq thing started out with me making a sarcastic comment to Dive about neg repping people who "believe lies."

And then it has come to this. Personally, I'm ready to go back to the original topic anytime Dive is ready.
so, are you ready to admit Palin never tried to ban a single book?
and that the OP of this thread is nothing but politically motivated lies?
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Perhaps you are referring to this?

Hot Air Blog Archive Saddam supported at least two al-Qaeda groups: Pentagon Update: What it means

Saddam and Osama basically ran in the same groups. That doesn't mean that Saddam was directly supporting Osama. If anything, Osama hated Saddam.

Though I found this, quite interesting.

Brother Socrates and Kids: The War in Iraq
um, you used the blog of a 14 year old as proof?


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um, you used the blog of a 14 year old as proof?


Not proof, just a interesting find.

Hence the words though I found this, quite interesting.

Don't jump all over it foaming from the mouth just quite yet.
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