US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum  

Some perspective on Bristol Palin's pregnancy

This is a discussion on Some perspective on Bristol Palin's pregnancy within the Congress forums, part of the US Discussion category; In Wasilla, Pregnancy Was No Secret That's about the only thing that I didn't know about Bristol Palin's pregnancy. The rest of the details I ...


Go Back   US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum > US Discussion > Congress


Congress The latest greatest antics of our elected representatives.


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2008, 12:19 AM
CrimsonWhite's Avatar
Administrator
Member #3080
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: the People's Republic of Illinois
Posts: 6,482
Thanks: 120
Thanked 378 Times in 262 Posts
Rep Power: 205
CrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religion
CrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religion
Some perspective on Bristol Palin's pregnancy

In Wasilla, Pregnancy Was No Secret

That's about the only thing that I didn't know about Bristol Palin's pregnancy. The rest of the details I picked up almost without trying, while talking about other things with townsfolk — some who know the governor and her family well, some who don't. It was, more or less, an open secret. And everyone was saying the same thing: the governor's 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, the father is her boyfriend, and it's really nobody's business beyond that.

I happen to agree.

This tiny town wedged in between the Chugach and Talkeetna mountain ranges has intrigued the whole country since John McCain's surprise Friday announcement that Wasilla's favorite daughter, Sarah Palin, would be his running mate. Sure, some of the interest was a prelude to attacks on Palin's readiness for national office. But Wasilla also offered a welcome chance to get specific about the geography of a politician. It's one of our most cherished myths, that a leader can come from somewhere and you can guess at their qualities not just by what they say, but where they live.

In Wasilla, Pregnancy Was No Secret - TIME

Be sure to read both pages.
__________________
"I have tried to live my life so that my family would love me and my friends would respect me. The others can do whatever the hell they please."

John Wayne

Reply With Quote
Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Sponsored links

  #2 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2008, 12:25 AM
Inferno's Avatar
boatwoman
Member #11682
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: the river styx
Posts: 417
Thanks: 1
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 4
Inferno could be police chiefInferno could be police chiefInferno could be police chiefInferno could be police chiefInferno could be police chiefInferno could be police chiefInferno could be police chiefInferno could be police chiefInferno could be police chiefInferno could be police chiefInferno could be police chiefInferno could be police chiefInferno could be police chief
Her pregnancy is a reflection on her mothers views thats why the attacks. Has nothing to do with Bristols mistake.

If mom wants those views for us all she better enforce them at home.
__________________
I am the way into the city of woe.
I am the way to forsaken people.
Dante's Inferno
"Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." Robert Oppenheimer
My God, what have we done?" - Robert Lewis co-pilot of the Enola Gay
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2008, 12:32 AM
CrimsonWhite's Avatar
Administrator
Member #3080
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: the People's Republic of Illinois
Posts: 6,482
Thanks: 120
Thanked 378 Times in 262 Posts
Rep Power: 205
CrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religion
CrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religionCrimsonWhite could successfully start his own religion
Quote: Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
Her pregnancy is a reflection on her mothers views thats why the attacks. Has nothing to do with Bristols mistake.

If mom wants those views for us all she better enforce them at home.
You are gonna have to explain that one a little better.
__________________
"I have tried to live my life so that my family would love me and my friends would respect me. The others can do whatever the hell they please."

John Wayne

Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2008, 12:33 AM
Registered User
Member #3776
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Glorious People's Republic of California
Posts: 2,220
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 61
Ninja could be the buddhaNinja could be the buddhaNinja could be the buddhaNinja could be the buddhaNinja could be the buddhaNinja could be the buddha
Ninja could be the buddhaNinja could be the buddhaNinja could be the buddhaNinja could be the buddhaNinja could be the buddhaNinja could be the buddhaNinja could be the buddhaNinja could be the buddhaNinja could be the buddhaNinja could be the buddhaNinja could be the buddha
What views? Pro-life?

Seems mom IS enforcing them at home.

The leftwingers chewed this up and shat it out. It'll be a non-issue in a day or two.
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2008, 12:34 AM
jreeves's Avatar
Registered User
Member #8708
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,332
Thanks: 71
Thanked 84 Times in 74 Posts
Rep Power: 91
jreeves could be the buddhajreeves could be the buddhajreeves could be the buddha
jreeves could be the buddhajreeves could be the buddhajreeves could be the buddhajreeves could be the buddhajreeves could be the buddhajreeves could be the buddhajreeves could be the buddhajreeves could be the buddha
Quote: Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
Her pregnancy is a reflection on her mothers views thats why the attacks. Has nothing to do with Bristols mistake.

If mom wants those views for us all she better enforce them at home.
No matter how much you tell your kids to practice abstinence they will make their own choices. While you may say this is clear evidence we should be preaching safe sex in schools, this is not so. It is up to the parents to preach safe sex to their children, it's not up to government.
__________________
Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.
Will Rogers
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel or envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Winston Churchill
And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country.

JFK
No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2008, 12:34 AM
Jon's Avatar
Jon Jon is offline
Darwinist
Member #9370
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Fayetteville, AR
Posts: 6,321
Thanks: 41
Thanked 218 Times in 164 Posts
Rep Power: 102
Jon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddha
Jon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddha
Quote: Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
Her pregnancy is a reflection on her mothers views thats why the attacks. Has nothing to do with Bristols mistake.

If mom wants those views for us all she better enforce them at home.
You're blaming Sarah for her daughter doing what most teenagers do?

Get real.
__________________
Duty, honor, country: Those three hallowed words reverently dictate what you ought to be, what you can be, what you will be. They are your rallying point to build courage when courage seems to fail, to regain faith when there seems to be little cause for faith, to create hope when hope becomes forlorn. -General Douglas Macarthur

Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2008, 12:35 AM
Silence's Avatar
wanna lick?
Member #11761
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: FL
Posts: 3,820
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 30
Silence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the president
Silence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the president
Quote: Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
Her pregnancy is a reflection on her mothers views thats why the attacks. Has nothing to do with Bristols mistake.

If mom wants those views for us all she better enforce them at home.
you really can't say that it's a reflection of her mother's views. Perhaps more a rebellion against her mother's views?
__________________
Better late than pregnant
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2008, 12:42 AM
Jon's Avatar
Jon Jon is offline
Darwinist
Member #9370
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Fayetteville, AR
Posts: 6,321
Thanks: 41
Thanked 218 Times in 164 Posts
Rep Power: 102
Jon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddha
Jon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddhaJon could be the buddha
Quote: Originally Posted by Silence View Post
you really can't say that it's a reflection of her mother's views. Perhaps more a rebellion against her mother's views?
Or, how about it's completely normal for teens to have sex? Can't we just say that?
__________________
Duty, honor, country: Those three hallowed words reverently dictate what you ought to be, what you can be, what you will be. They are your rallying point to build courage when courage seems to fail, to regain faith when there seems to be little cause for faith, to create hope when hope becomes forlorn. -General Douglas Macarthur

Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2008, 12:45 AM
DiveCon's Avatar
Dive Control Specialist
Member #11636
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Richmond, ME
Posts: 28,186
Thanks: 6,023
Thanked 1,044 Times in 845 Posts
Rep Power: 170
DiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religion
DiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religion
Quote: Originally Posted by jsanders View Post
Or, how about it's completely normal for teens to have sex? Can't we just say that?
or, how about mom said abstinence but school said its ok, but use a condom, and the condom failed?
hmmmm
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2008, 12:48 AM
dilloduck's Avatar
I monitor reality for you
Member #1324
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Austin, Tx
Posts: 35,379
Thanks: 508
Thanked 549 Times in 418 Posts
Rep Power: 246
dilloduck could successfully start his own religiondilloduck could successfully start his own religiondilloduck could successfully start his own religiondilloduck could successfully start his own religiondilloduck could successfully start his own religiondilloduck could successfully start his own religiondilloduck could successfully start his own religiondilloduck could successfully start his own religion
dilloduck could successfully start his own religiondilloduck could successfully start his own religiondilloduck could successfully start his own religiondilloduck could successfully start his own religiondilloduck could successfully start his own religiondilloduck could successfully start his own religiondilloduck could successfully start his own religiondilloduck could successfully start his own religiondilloduck could successfully start his own religiondilloduck could successfully start his own religiondilloduck could successfully start his own religion
Quote: Originally Posted by DiveCon View Post
or, how about mom said abstinence but school said its ok, but use a condom, and the condom failed?
hmmmm
How about mom said abstinence, school said contraception and her daughter said " Thank you --now I will make my own CHOICE !
__________________
"Some men eventually stumble over the truth but they usually pick themselves up and walk on as if nothing ever happened."
-Winston Churchill

"In religion and politics, people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue, but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing." -Mark Twain
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2008, 12:50 AM
DiveCon's Avatar
Dive Control Specialist
Member #11636
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Richmond, ME
Posts: 28,186
Thanks: 6,023
Thanked 1,044 Times in 845 Posts
Rep Power: 170
DiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religion
DiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religion
Quote: Originally Posted by dilloduck View Post
How about mom said abstinence, school said contraception and her daughter said " Thank you --now I will make my own CHOICE !
potAto, potato
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2008, 12:51 AM
Caligirl's Avatar
Oh yes it is too!
Member #11753
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,532
Thanks: 3
Thanked 21 Times in 17 Posts
Rep Power: 16
Caligirl could be state governorCaligirl could be state governorCaligirl could be state governorCaligirl could be state governor
Caligirl could be state governorCaligirl could be state governorCaligirl could be state governorCaligirl could be state governorCaligirl could be state governorCaligirl could be state governor
Gee this whole slant is strange, I admit I thought I had seen everything on the internet but the amount of bizarre ideas coming out of the woodwork, from various groups, on this issue, was something I wouldn't have expected.

Personally, I was pregnant before marriage. I was 29 at the time and through college so it's a little different.

My husband's mom had her first child as a teen, and that child had her first child as a teen, and I am not sure if either were married but I think both were high school sweetheart types.

I am pretty open minded, I plan to vote Obama/Biden, I don't find this pregnancy scandalous AT ALL. What the??? I expect there is as good a chance my daughters will accidentally become pregnant as that they won't - and why would that be a problem? If I am around to help I certainly will.

It's just bizarre to me that this story has any legs at all. There were lots of girls getting preggers in HS back in the day, and it hasn't changed.

Condoms are a good idea because of STD. They also prevent pregnancy, most of the time. Sex, well, I don't want my kids to have it today but I hope they are having it as young adults. 17? I think I expect it, though of course I guess I'd rather they waited.

I just don't get the scandal here. I don't expect the schools to teach my kids about condoms. That's the parents' job. My kids have always been able to talk about 'body stuff' with me and we've broached birth control already.

Palin's family is her own business. The reason she shouldn't be VP of the US is because she would be a heartbeat away from being commander in chief of the most powerful military in the world, and she doesn't sound as though she knows much about foreign affairs.

Her views on sex-ed are beside the point. Whether it gets taught in school or not is silly. Nothing keeps me and my kids from continuing our frank and open discussions about these things. Put her in charge of a nuclear arsenal, on the other hand, and I'm a little more concerned about the country.

Last edited by Caligirl; 09-02-2008 at 02:29 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2008, 12:53 AM
Gunny's Avatar
Administrator
Member #2435
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: The Republic of Texas
Posts: 37,355
Thanks: 53
Thanked 1,779 Times in 1,279 Posts
Rep Power: 683
Gunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religion
Gunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religionGunny could successfully start his own religion
Quote: Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
Her pregnancy is a reflection on her mothers views thats why the attacks. Has nothing to do with Bristols mistake.

If mom wants those views for us all she better enforce them at home.
That's bullshit and you know it. There is no rule set in stone nor evidence to support that seventeen years olds are reflections of what their parents taught them. That's just the best parents can hope for. I haven't seen it often turn out that way.
__________________
She helped me with my suitcase, She stands before my eyes
Driving me to the airport, And to the friendly skies.
Going through security I held her for so long.
She finally looked at me in love, And she was gone.
Just a song before I go, A lesson to be learned.
Travelling twice the speed of sound It's easy to get burned.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2008, 12:57 AM
DiveCon's Avatar
Dive Control Specialist
Member #11636
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Richmond, ME
Posts: 28,186
Thanks: 6,023
Thanked 1,044 Times in 845 Posts
Rep Power: 170
DiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religion
DiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religionDiveCon could successfully start his own religion
Quote: Originally Posted by Caligirl View Post
Gee this whole slant is strange, I admit I thought I had seen everything on the internet but the amount of bizarre ideas coming out of the woodwork, from various groups, on this issue, was something I wouldn't have expected.

Personally, I was pregnant before marriage. I was 29 at the time and attaining an advanced degree so it's a little different.

My husband's mom had her first child as a teen, and that child had her first child as a teen, and I am not sure if either were married but I think both were high school sweetheart types.

I am pretty open minded, I plan to vote Obama/Biden, I don't find this pregnancy scandalous AT ALL. What the??? I expect there is as good a chance my daughters will accidentally become pregnant as that they won't - and why would that be a problem? If I am around to help I certainly will.

It's just bizarre to me that this story has any legs at all. There were lots of girls getting preggers in HS back in the day, and it hasn't changed.

Condoms are a good idea because of STD. They also prevent pregnancy, most of the time. Sex, well, I don't want my kids to have it today but I hope they are having it as young adults. 17? I think I expect it, though of course I guess I'd rather they waited.

I just don't get the scandal here. I don't expect the schools to teach my kids about condoms. In fact, the more open parents are with their kids about sex ed, the less need there is for ballot initiatives requiring parental notification for abortions, which I oppose for a variety of reasons, surrounding personal liberty. The best way to reduce abortion is to reduce poverty.

I always thought ballot initiatives requiring parental notification were bizarre, I expect there will be another this fall. A healthy family and society would have frank and open conversations about sex, and parental notification would happen as a matter of course. My kids have always been able to talk about 'body stuff' with me and we've broached birth control already.

Palin's family is her own business. The reason she shouldn't be VP of the US is because she would be a heartbeat away from being commander in chief of the most powerful military in the world, and she doesn't sound as though she knows much about foreign affairs.

Her views on sex-ed are beside the point. Whether it gets taught in school or not is silly. Nothing keeps me and my kids from continuing our frank and open discussions about these things. Put her in charge of a nuclear arsenal, on the other hand, and I'm a little more concerned about the country.
i feel that the schools should tell the truth to the kids
there is no such thing as safe sex
all types of contraceptives have failure points
why not just tell them that the only "safe sex" is no sex
and if they are going to take the risk and have sex anyway, they should at least use a contraceptive and use a condom as well because it does offer some protection on the spread of STD's
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2008, 12:58 AM
Silence's Avatar
wanna lick?
Member #11761
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: FL
Posts: 3,820
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 30
Silence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the president
Silence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the presidentSilence could be the president
Quote: Originally Posted by jsanders View Post
Or, how about it's completely normal for teens to have sex? Can't we just say that?

yes, we could say that.
__________________
Better late than pregnant
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum > US Discussion > Congress

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump

» Search Forums

» Site Navigation
 > FAQ
» Apple iPad Forum
» Premium Sponsors
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:27 AM.


Please visit these our friends at the following forums:
Photography Forum - Celebrity Gossip and News - Conceal Carry and Hand Gun Forum - Parrot Forum - iPhone News - iPhone Forums - Motorola Droid Forum


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Ad Management by RedTyger