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Quote: Originally Posted by Kirk She said her administration did not try to have him fired. Now the Commissioner of Public Safety told the Anchorage Daily News that Palin PERSONALLY called him and emailed him on several occasions to get the trooper fired. He said nothing of the sort. He even said that NO ONE EVER told him to fire Wooten. Read your own fucking articles, hack.
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Quote: Originally Posted by jsanders He said nothing of the sort. He even said that NO ONE EVER told him to fire Wooten. Read your own fucking articles, hack.  kirk caught in a lie?
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Quote: Originally Posted by jsanders He said nothing of the sort. He even said that NO ONE EVER told him to fire Wooten. Read your own fucking articles, hack. God, you make this fun....
ANCHORAGE — Alaska's former commissioner of public safety claims that Gov. Sarah Palin, John McCain's pick to be vice president, personally talked to him on two occasions about a state trooper who was locked in a bitter custody battle with the governor's sister.
In a phone conversation Friday night, Walt Monegan, who was Alaska's top cop until Palin fired him July 11, told The Anchorage Daily News that the governor also had e-mailed him two or three times about the trooper, Mike Wooten, though the e-mails didn't mention Wooten by name.
What role Palin played in seeking her ex-brother-in-law's dismissal is the governor's first brush with scandal in a political career that has been premised on reforming Alaska's corruption-plagued Republican party and raises questions not only about her willingness to use her office to further a personal agenda but also about her administrative abilities.
Palin's replacement for Monegan, Chuck Kopp, was forced to resign just two weeks after he was appointed because of a sexual harassment complaint that had been filed against him when he was the chief of police in Kenai, Alaska.
Palin, in a news conference announcing Kopp's resignation July 24, said she was unaware that the Kenai city council had reprimanded Kopp as a result of the complaint. She wouldn't discuss how her staff had vetted Kopp before naming him to replace Monegan three days after Monegan was fired. http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/51216.html
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kirk God, you make this fun.... From the link you JUST POSTED: Quote: "For the record, no one ever said fire Wooten. Not the governor. Not Todd. Not any of the other staff," Monegan said Friday from Portland. Also, in regards to Wooten: Quote: The personnel investigation began in April 2005, long before Palin became governor and months before her October 2005 announcement that she was running. The investigation into Wooten wrapped up in March 2006, before she was elected.
Troopers found four instances in which Wooten violated policy, broke the law, or both.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kirk God, you make this fun....
ANCHORAGE — Alaska's former commissioner of public safety claims that Gov. Sarah Palin, John McCain's pick to be vice president, personally talked to him on two occasions about a state trooper who was locked in a bitter custody battle with the governor's sister.
In a phone conversation Friday night, Walt Monegan, who was Alaska's top cop until Palin fired him July 11, told The Anchorage Daily News that the governor also had e-mailed him two or three times about the trooper, Mike Wooten, though the e-mails didn't mention Wooten by name.
What role Palin played in seeking her ex-brother-in-law's dismissal is the governor's first brush with scandal in a political career that has been premised on reforming Alaska's corruption-plagued Republican party and raises questions not only about her willingness to use her office to further a personal agenda but also about her administrative abilities.
Palin's replacement for Monegan, Chuck Kopp, was forced to resign just two weeks after he was appointed because of a sexual harassment complaint that had been filed against him when he was the chief of police in Kenai, Alaska.
Palin, in a news conference announcing Kopp's resignation July 24, said she was unaware that the Kenai city council had reprimanded Kopp as a result of the complaint. She wouldn't discuss how her staff had vetted Kopp before naming him to replace Monegan three days after Monegan was fired. McClatchy Washington Bureau | 08/30/2008 | Fired official: Palin talked to me about ex-brother-in-law and you are ridiculous
that doesnt support your claim that Palin lied either
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Rep Power: 68 | | And, from the link you posted yesterday: Quote: Palin said her husband also contacted Monegan about a threat made by Wooten but backed off when Monegan indicated he couldn't get into the matter.
The family had alleged the threat in 2005, before Palin became governor. They said Wooten had told Palin's sister he would shoot their father if he got the sister a lawyer.
Wooten denied saying anything like that. But a trooper investigation concluded he did, although it wasn't a crime because he didn't threaten the father directly. Wooten's actions did violate trooper policy, the investigator found. Palin staff pushed to have trooper fired: Walt Monegan | adn.com
Hey, thanks for finding me links to prove she did nothing wrong. It saves me the trouble of Googling.
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Alaska's Sarah Palin is the GOP's newest star.
by Fred Barnes
07/16/2007, Volume 012, Issue 41
Juneau
The wipeout in the 2006 election left Republicans in such a state of dejection that they've overlooked the one shining victory in which a Republican star was born. The triumph came in Alaska where Sarah Palin, a politician of eye-popping integrity, was elected governor. She is now the most popular governor in America, with an approval rating in the 90s, and probably the most popular public official in any state. Her rise is a great (and rare) story of how adherence to principle--especially to transparency and accountability in government--can produce political success. And by the way, Palin is a conservative who only last month vetoed 13 percent of the state's proposed budget for capital projects. The cuts, the Anchorage Daily News said, "may be the biggest single-year line-item veto total in state history."
As recently as last year, Palin (pronounced pale-in) was a political outcast. She resigned in January 2004 as head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission after complaining to the office of Governor Frank Murkowski and to state Attorney General Gregg Renkes about ethical violations by another commissioner, Randy Ruedrich, who was also Republican state chairman.
State law barred Palin from speaking out publicly about ethical violations and corruption. But she was vindicated later in 2004 when Ruedrich, who'd been reconfirmed as state chairman, agreed to pay a $12,000 fine for breaking state ethics laws. She became a hero in the eyes of the public and the press, and the bane of Republican leaders.
In 2005, she continued to take on
the Republican establishment by... ---> The Most Popular Governor
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiveCon and you are ridiculous
that doesnt support your claim that Palin lied either "Gov. Sarah Palin on Wednesday revealed an audio recording that shows an aide pressuring the Public Safety Department to fire a state trooper embroiled in a custody battle with her sister.
Palin, who has previously said her administration didn't exert pressure to get rid of trooper Mike Wooten, also disclosed that members of her staff had made about two dozen contacts with public safety officials about the trooper."
She lied to the public about trying to exert influence, and then fired the Commissioner and replaced him with a guy who had already been reprimanded for sexual harrassment, so then she had to replace him.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kirk "Gov. Sarah Palin on Wednesday revealed an audio recording that shows an aide pressuring the Public Safety Department to fire a state trooper embroiled in a custody battle with her sister.
Palin, who has previously said her administration didn't exert pressure to get rid of trooper Mike Wooten, also disclosed that members of her staff had made about two dozen contacts with public safety officials about the trooper."
She lied to the public about trying to exert influence, and then fired the Commissioner and replaced him with a guy who had already been reprimanded for sexual harrassment, so then she had to replace him. Quote: "I do now have to tell Alaskans that such pressure could have been perceived to exist although I have only now become aware of it," Palin said. Palin staff pushed to have trooper fired: Walt Monegan | adn.com
Are you illiterate?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kirk "Gov. Sarah Palin on Wednesday revealed an audio recording that shows an aide pressuring the Public Safety Department to fire a state trooper embroiled in a custody battle with her sister.
Palin, who has previously said her administration didn't exert pressure to get rid of trooper Mike Wooten, also disclosed that members of her staff had made about two dozen contacts with public safety officials about the trooper."
She lied to the public about trying to exert influence, and then fired the Commissioner and replaced him with a guy who had already been reprimanded for sexual harrassment, so then she had to replace him. Way too sad, links at site: Hot Air Blog Archive Desperation from Democrats Quote: Desperation from Democrats
posted at 9:56 am on August 30, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
Now that almost a full day has passed since John McCain has named Sarah Palin as his running mate, we can already see the themes his political opponents will take in criticizing her. Irony runs through a number of these arguments, as most of them apply more to their own ticket than to the Republicans, and one in particular is just so despicable as to drop the jaw to the ground. Let’s take a tour of these, shall we? It’s a desperation pick — he didn’t make up his mind until Thursday!
McCain did make his selection on Thursday, but apparently well before the Barack Obama speech that supposedly spooked him into foregoing Mitt Romney or Tim Pawlenty. What of it? When did Barack Obama make up his mind about Joe Biden? Biden had told reporters, “I’m not the guy” just days before finally getting picked as the running mate. Obama was desperate for anyone with foreign-policy gravitas after stumbling through the Caucasus crisis on his own. Paul Begala noted that it appeared Vladimir Putin had picked Obama’s running mate.
Besides, why would McCain be “desperate”? Most Republicans run well behind their Democratic opponents in the summer; McCain gained enormous ground on Obama and was ahead in polls of likely voters before the convention.
Why would he put a small-town mayor a heartbeat away from the presidency?
This is a real laugher. By the same logic, why would the Democrats make a state legislator the actual president? The answer is that Obama is a US Senator of three years experience, and Palin is a governor of 20 months’ experience. Only Barack Obama has spent two of those three years not in the Senate doing his job but running for President. Before starting his bid, he had a grand total of less than 150 days in session in the Senate. Palin, on the other hand, has run her state for more than triple that time.
And let’s remember that Obama is running for the top job, while Palin’s running for VP. McCain can’t talk about experience any more — he’s shot himself in the foot!
Unfortunately for the critics, this argument doesn’t hold water, either. All four principals are running for the highest executive position in the federal government — indeed, the position in charge of the entire executive branch. How much executive experience does Obama have? None; he’s worked in corporate law, community organizing, and has eleven years as a legislator at various levels. Biden? He’s been a lawyer for three years and a Senator for 35 years, and has no executive experience at any level of government.
McCain at least has executive experience as a squadron commander in the US Navy, but Palin has the actual executive track record that the others lack. She has governed Alaska for 20 months, negotiated a pipeline deal with Canada (which gives her more formal diplomatic experience than either Obama or Biden), was commander-in-chief of Alaska’s National Guard, and so on. Even her more local-level experience is more applicable than Obama’s: she served two terms as mayor, an executive position, cutting taxes and running a small city. Obama served in the state legislature, with no executive responsibilities at all. Troopergate!
This, at least, qualifies as a legitimate concern, at least legitimate enough that the state legislature has decided to investigate it. Supposedly Palin fired the commissioner of public safety because he wouldn’t fire her brother-in-law, a state trooper who had becomed estranged from Palin’s sister. Mike Wooten only got a suspension, and last month, she allegedly dismissed Walt Monegan over his handling of the case. Palin says that wasn’t the reason, the legislature noted that Monegan’s was a political appointment and he served at the pleasure of the governor, and they have also stated on the record that Palin has been so cooperative that they will not need to issue subpoenas — which hardly sounds like a cover-up. So what did Wooten do, anyway? Troopers eventually investigated 13 issues and found four in which Wooten violated policy or broke the law or both: • Wooten used a Taser on his stepson.
• He illegally shot a moose.
• He drank beer in his patrol car on one occasion.
• He told others his father-in-law would “eat a f’ing lead bullet” if he
helped his daughter get an attorney for the divorce. Excuse me, but any of these four should have been a firing offense, let alone having done all four. He Tased his stepson? He threatened to shoot Palin’s father? No wonder the Palins hired their own investigator and pressed the issue so hard. But if this was the reason Palin cashiered Monegan, why did she bother to wait eighteen months after taking office to get rid of him?
Palin’s pick insults more qualified Republican women like Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Elizabeth Dole, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, etc etc etc.
I doubt any of these women feel “insulted” by McCain’s choice, but even if they did, so what? McCain didn’t want a Washington insider as a running mate. None of the known short-listers came from DC with the exception of Joe Lieberman, and Lieberman would have been a special case anyway. He wanted a partner for real reform, someone with a track record of taking risks to pursue change and to clean up politics. All of these women are insiders, and most of them have no executive experience at all — and all of them are Senators. Why copy the Biden pick? Sarah Palin wasn’t REALLY pregnant — it’s her daughter’s child.
This popped up on a Daily Kos diary and has unfortunately been repeated by bloggers who should know better. The rumor is a weird reversal of the John Edwards story, only this time, critics refute Palin’s maternity. Supposedly, so the story goes, the baby really was their eldest daughter’s (currently in high school), and not hers. The proof? At six months, Palin didn’t “look pregnant”, and supposedly her daughter had mono and took some time off from school. That’s it.
This is, simply, despicable. Babies born to teen mothers rarely have Down’s Syndrome anyway, whereas the possibility for that with a mother in her 40s is about 1 in 20. Athletic women sometimes do not show until late in the pregnancy. The whole rumor rests on the notion that the state’s most visible woman could carry out a fake pregnancy in front of the press while simultaneously hiding her daughter, and then pull a switcheroo — and for what possible purpose? To cover up a teen pregnancy, in this day and age? Give me a break.
The picture below was published at the end of February, and she certainly appears to be significantly wider than we saw yesterday on the dais.
If this is what the opposition comes down to, McCain made the wisest possible choice, and in the process exposed the opposition in a way that could never have been possible with any other running mate.
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the dem bots are so vile with this crap about the baby!
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Quote: Originally Posted by jsanders So first she says that no one on her staff tried to have this trooper fired, then after an audio tape surfaces of her staff doing just that, she changes her story.
And today the Commissioner himself says she called him personally and also emailed him to have the trooper fired.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kirk "Gov. Sarah Palin on Wednesday revealed an audio recording that shows an aide pressuring the Public Safety Department to fire a state trooper embroiled in a custody battle with her sister.
Palin, who has previously said her administration didn't exert pressure to get rid of trooper Mike Wooten, also disclosed that members of her staff had made about two dozen contacts with public safety officials about the trooper."
She lied to the public about trying to exert influence, and then fired the Commissioner and replaced him with a guy who had already been reprimanded for sexual harrassment, so then she had to replace him. no, she didnt lie
clearly you are too stupid to know the difference between not knowing and willfully telling a lie
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