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Old 08-25-2008, 12:26 AM
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Sorry I have to disagree with you on this one, and I am against "illegal immigration"!!! But ... he is right. American's won't pick lettuce for the wages they pay in the fields. I live in the Central Valley of California. Probably 97% of the farmers have gone to automated picking machines, like this lettuce picker ... (Salinas Valley, CA)


Hmmmn. I wonder why the machines are taking the place of people to work in the fields. Go figure. It used to be if you had a family, and could not find work anyplace you could always to pick fruit and vegetables. Not anymore. It is below most American's to do so.

Someone whose name is "greenpartyaz" - which I assume means Green Party Arizona? .... should know that.
That is right "Arizona", and I also disagree, I know hundreds of people just looking for a job scrubbing toilets for $9.00/hr. I know Air Conditioning guys who work in hotter places such as Bullhead City/Lake Havasu who work in attics making 12-15/hr, in 130-150 degree attics. So that still doesn't let him off the hook for saying illegals should be allowed to work in the US without legal status. As long as he personally benefits from it, this will continue. In Arizona the republicans (or I should say, the true conservatives) have their panties in a twist over illegal immigration. This is one of those issues that I rarely agree with them on. Companies who knowingly hire illegals should be held accountable for hiring illegal aliens. If the CEO sees the threat of federal prison, then the company is less likely to engage in this activity. And If there are no jobs, there are no border crossings. Janet Napalatano, signed a bill that makes it illegal for companies to knowingly hire illegals. That is total bullshit, to say Americans don't want to do certain jobs. I know a lot of people willing to pick lettuce in a field in Yuma!
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That is right "Arizona", and I also disagree, I know hundreds of people just looking for a job scrubbing toilets for $9.00/hr. I know Air Conditioning guys who work in hotter places such as Bullhead City/Lake Havasu who work in attics making 12-15/hr, in 130-150 degree attics. So that still doesn't let him off the hook for saying illegals should be allowed to work in the US without legal status. As long as he personally benefits from it, this will continue. In Arizona the republicans (or I should say, the true conservatives) have their panties in a twist over illegal immigration. This is one of those issues that I rarely agree with them on. Companies who knowingly hire illegals should be held accountable for hiring illegal aliens. If the CEO sees the threat of federal prison, then the company is less likely to engage in this activity. And If there are no jobs, there are no border crossings. Janet Napalatano, signed a bill that makes it illegal for companies to knowingly hire illegals. That is total bullshit, to say Americans don't want to do certain jobs. I know a lot of people willing to pick lettuce in a field in Yuma!

And Obama ? Is he planning on sending them all home and building a wall ? Not a chance.
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Way to go John, you really show your true strips as an out of touch
I agree, he seems to out of touch with what prevailing wages in Yuma, Arizona are for this type of work and why they can't find help.

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The shortage of farm workers has been driving wages higher. Last season, base pay for day laborers working in this area was $6.50 an hour. Now it's $8.50. Rademacher says it may go higher because farmers here can't attract enough employees.
Along US-Mexico border, not enough hands for the harvest | csmonitor.com

It seems picking lettuce for $8.50 an hour is the real problem.
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Which candidate isn't ? Get real.
Obama is for illegal immigration, but McCain IS illegal immigration.
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I'd go pick lettuce for $50/hour.
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Just direct me to who is paying the $50/hour.
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Just direct me to who is paying the $50/hour.
From the video statement I saw McCain seems to be doing the hiring. I didn't know he had a lettuce farm.
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From the video statement I saw McCain seems to be doing the hiring. I didn't know he had a lettuce farm.
He should post an ad on one of those $100,000+/year job listing sites ...

$4.99 million/year isn't rich and lettuce pickers earn $50/hour ...

Oh yeah ... he's in touch ...
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Out of touch ? He's right. WTF are you talknig about. Americans have become as lazy as Europeans. We farm out all the hard work to immigrants who don't mind working hard. What is Obama's stance on illegal immigration ?
We don't farm out jobs, the corporations do! Average Americans are lucky to have a job in this economy.
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That is right "Arizona", and I also disagree, I know hundreds of people just looking for a job scrubbing toilets for $9.00/hr. I know Air Conditioning guys who work in hotter places such as Bullhead City/Lake Havasu who work in attics making 12-15/hr, in 130-150 degree attics. So that still doesn't let him off the hook for saying illegals should be allowed to work in the US without legal status. As long as he personally benefits from it, this will continue. In Arizona the republicans (or I should say, the true conservatives) have their panties in a twist over illegal immigration. This is one of those issues that I rarely agree with them on. Companies who knowingly hire illegals should be held accountable for hiring illegal aliens. If the CEO sees the threat of federal prison, then the company is less likely to engage in this activity. And If there are no jobs, there are no border crossings. Janet Napalatano, signed a bill that makes it illegal for companies to knowingly hire illegals. That is total bullshit, to say Americans don't want to do certain jobs. I know a lot of people willing to pick lettuce in a field in Yuma!
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John McCain defends illegal immigration. Video: McCain “Americans Won’t Pick Lettuce for $50/hr” Sensico Way to go John, you really show your true strips as an out of touch elitist asshole!
... is what you said. And I still agree with several others .... if Americans are hungry enough, and if they would do work below their over inflated ego's (if need be) .. it would solve a lot of the problems, for the lettuce grower, and the worker. Working for $9.00 an hour ... (flipping burgers, cleaning toilets, or whatever) ... is still better than not working at all, and blaming it on "Way to go John, you really show your true strips as an out of touch elitist asshole!".
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We don't farm out jobs, the corporations do! Average Americans are lucky to have a job in this economy.
If you don't think corporations are a part of who America is, you better think again.
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Out of touch ? He's right. WTF are you talknig about. Americans have become as lazy as Europeans. We farm out all the hard work to immigrants who don't mind working hard. What is Obama's stance on illegal immigration ?
Tell it to my son and his friends harvesting blueberries as they work their way through college.

They might be included to disagree.

FWIW, they're making $2.50 a bucket and if they're lucky enough to get a good rick, they might make $15.00 an hour.

If course if they get assigned a crappy rick, they might make less than half that, it all depends on the field.

John, McCain is a blithering asshole if he actually made that statement. (the vid isn't working for me).
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Quote: Originally Posted by editec View Post
Tell it to my son and his friends harvesting blueberries as they work their way through college.

They might be included to disagree.

FWIW, they're making $2.50 a bucket and if they're lucky enough to get a good rick, they might make $15.00 an hour.

If course if they get assigned a crappy rick, they might make less than half that, it all depends on the field.

John, McCain is a blithering asshole if he actually made that statement. (the vid isn't working for me).
Your son is one of the few left and I seriously doubt he intends to continue in the manual labor field after he gets his degree.
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John McCain defends illegal immigration. Video: McCain “Americans Won’t Pick Lettuce for $50/hr” Sensico Way to go John, you really show your true strips as an out of touch elitist asshole!
Ok, so let's do this. Let's tighten the border and throw any illegal out that is working in landscaping, restaurants, housekeeping, trucking, factory work, laying carpet, construction, etc. But have a clear/open trail from mexico to the US that leads directly to our orchards and they can come in to do JUST THAT work, and no other work.

Because illegals are taking jobs American's will do. Working in a meat processing plant like Tyson Chicken is not a job American's won't do.

I think it is more that the business owners want the cheapest labor possible so they can maximize profits.

Too bad. Sorry. You gotta pay your employees well.

And FYI, I can't wait until American VP's and Directors that make $1 million a year start getting replaced by India and Chinese counterparts that only need $500K a year.

Not gonna happen? You are forgetting that India & China now own those companies. Yes they will replace white executives because they too want to maximize profits. Then we'll all be in the same boat, dummies.
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