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08-18-2008, 12:17 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by busara how does mccain work for the oil companies? if he has ties i really want to know.
and just cause i have problems with obama doesnt mean i dont also have them with mccain Are you kidding?
McCain said a few years ago that he was against off shore drilling and he was for a windfall profit tax on the oil companies. Now he says the exact opposite.
Bush is an oil man. McCain only got the nomination because he agreed not to be a "maverick" when it comes to the oil companies.
I can't believe you even have to ask.
Lets see, McCain has lobbyist ties to just about everyone, so let's see if I can dig up oil lobbyists too. One second.
McCain, Iraq and Chevron
Colombia’s Oil Profile
McCain’s Colombia Ties
Charlie Black and Santo Domingo Massacre
Occidental and the U’wa
Promoting Oil Development through Militarization
Hopelessly Compromised on Colombia McCain?s Big Oil Ties: From Colombia to Iraq | North American Congress on Latin America | 
08-18-2008, 12:21 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by jillian Frankly, anyone who voted for a subliterate like Bush really has no credibilty in demanding "experience".... Bullshit, nothing but more of the same from you!
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08-18-2008, 12:23 PM
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Rep Power: 212 | | | Anyone who has ever seen McCain and Bush speak knows McCain is no Bush. I wish we'd had him for the last 4 years instead of Bush. I don't see any reluctance in McCain to confront difficult questions and issues head-on. The one major problem with Bush was that while I believe he was committed to his own vision of the US and his part in it, he was far to reluctant to address his critics and speak directly to the issues, without sugar coating it.
But they both have Obama beat hands down. Obama wouldn't know a straight answer if it sat on his face and wiggled, and is the master of mouthing platitudes which mean absolutely nothing and NEVER answer the question being asked. Why doesn't he want to answer the question? Because ultimately, he wants to change the US into something else, he doesn't like the US, and HE DOESN'T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW because he knows they will not support it.
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08-18-2008, 12:24 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Charles_Main Bullshit, nothing but more of the same from you! Ha ha Charlie. She is so right about you. You voted for Bush twice. The Texas Legislature meets 2 times a year. How much experience did Bush have. And even after he fucked up for 4 years and you knew he sucked, you voted for him again. You should be banned from voting. Litmus test on voting is if you voted for Bush in 2004. Dummy. | 
08-18-2008, 12:27 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by sealybobo You should be banned from voting. HAHA thanks for proving you are opposed to democracy and freedom, You little Neg repping baby!
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08-18-2008, 12:33 PM
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Rep Power: 212 | | | Is there any way to put a sticky on that post and save it forever, so we can always refer to it when bobo claims to want liberty and freedom for all?
BTW, did we ever find out what country bobo is from? I love it when commie POS come to US message boards and criticize the US and Americans, all the while pretending to be American. I love it even more when idiot American posters who don't understand that socialist policies result in tyranny and the demise of freedom, jump on board with these disgusting moles and support them wholeheartedly, believing they've finally found another American who thinks like them. When all the while, their foreign hero is laughing their ass off at the morons who will sell out their country.
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08-18-2008, 12:40 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by sealybobo Are you kidding?
McCain said a few years ago that he was against off shore drilling and he was for a windfall profit tax on the oil companies. Now he says the exact opposite.
Bush is an oil man. McCain only got the nomination because he agreed not to be a "maverick" when it comes to the oil companies.
I can't believe you even have to ask.
Lets see, McCain has lobbyist ties to just about everyone, so let's see if I can dig up oil lobbyists too. One second.
McCain, Iraq and Chevron
Colombia’s Oil Profile
McCain’s Colombia Ties
Charlie Black and Santo Domingo Massacre
Occidental and the U’wa
Promoting Oil Development through Militarization
Hopelessly Compromised on Colombia McCain?s Big Oil Ties: From Colombia to Iraq | North American Congress on Latin America most of those ties are weak. donations (made to obama as well), some advisors who have worked for oil companies, and voting against a windfall tax (which would likely just cause them to raise prices. whats so good about that?) oil companies have been receiving tax breaks for years, so thats nothing new.
i thought you might have something definitive, like he was on the board for exxon. thats why i ask. im sure he has some ties, but he doesnt seem to be 'in the pocket'
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