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08-14-2008, 08:45 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by traderjoe9 Well I am terribly sorry that you are unable to realize that Obama has almost no experience, no military service, offers up almost no solutions to our conflicts internationally and has a shady background- yes, everyone has a shady background, but none like Obama.
I don't care how terrible Bush was the past 8 years - that doesn't justify voting in someone who will be even worse. You're thinking about it in terms of replacing Bush because he was terrible, but all you are doing is voting someone else in who will create even more problems for us down the road. I guess if you keep lying enough, sooner or later you begin to believe the lies.
Obama was the president of the Harvard Law review. He worked in international business. He taught constitutional law. He worked as a civil rights attorney. He has been a legislator for 10 years. He is on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, so he has been getting the top secret foreign policy briefings for years. He is smart, charismatic, and well spoken. He is already beloved overseas, and will do a great job of presenting the American case to the world. | 
08-15-2008, 01:37 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kirk I guess if you keep lying enough, sooner or later you begin to believe the lies.
Obama was the president of the Harvard Law review. He worked in international business. He taught constitutional law. He worked as a civil rights attorney. He has been a legislator for 10 years. He is on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, so he has been getting the top secret foreign policy briefings for years. He is smart, charismatic, and well spoken. He is already beloved overseas, and will do a great job of presenting the American case to the world. Virtually no one knew who Obama was until he announced he was running for president, and why do you suppose that is? It's because in his career that you just exposed, he has not achieved anything of importance or worth noting. He was the president of the Harvard Law review...and? He was an attorney...and? It all sounds nice, but it doesn't mean that he is experienced enough to be president (I never denied he had a nice resume, I am simply questioning if that resume is good enough to qualify him as a president). Quote: What has Obama accomplished to date? In truth, not very much -- except to master the art of self-promotion.
Obama has written two best-selling autobiographies: Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance (1995) and The Audacity of Hope (2006). Yet he has never served in an important leadership position in government, business, or the military. His ability to perform as a chief executive officer is completely untested.
Obama has prestigious degrees from Columbia University and Harvard Law School, but no significant professional achievements to his name. No businesses or organizations he has founded or managed. No law firm partnerships. No important cases he has tried. Not a single work of legal scholarship he has authored, despite having been Editor-in-Chief of the Harvard Law Review and a part-time law professor at the University of Chicago for twelve years. (This is unheard of in the elite ranks of the legal profession, and calls into question the bona fides of Obama's professorship.)
Obama's principal occupation before entering politics was as a "community organizer" in Chicago. By his own admission, these efforts achieved only "some success," and none worthy of highlighting on his campaign website. Obama then served eight unexceptional years in the Illinois Senate, and was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2004, where he is not even considered one of the Democratic Party's legislative leaders. But I guess we can sugarcoat his experience your way.
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Quote: Originally Posted by traderjoe9 Virtually no one knew who Obama was until he announced he was running for president, and why do you suppose that is? It's because in his career that you just exposed, he has not achieved anything of importance or worth noting. He was the president of the Harvard Law review...and? He was an attorney...and? It all sounds nice, but it doesn't mean that he is experienced enough to be president (I never denied he had a nice resume, I am simply questioning if that resume is good enough to qualify him as a president).
But I guess we can sugarcoat his experience your way. I guess you can keep making stuff up.
No one knew who Obama was until he ran for president?
Apparently you don't follow politics very much. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kirk I guess if you keep lying enough, sooner or later you begin to believe the lies.
Obama was the president of the Harvard Law review. He worked in international business. He taught constitutional law. He worked as a civil rights attorney. He has been a legislator for 10 years. He is on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, so he has been getting the top secret foreign policy briefings for years. He is smart, charismatic, and well spoken. He is already beloved overseas, and will do a great job of presenting the American case to the world. he is a smart well spoken(thank his speech writers) racist. its no wonder he is liked over seas. please tell what the American case is that we need to present? | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by chapstic he is a smart well spoken(thank his speech writers) racist. its no wonder he is liked over seas. please tell what the American case is that we need to present? Obama is half black and half white.
Which side of himself is he racist against? | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kirk I guess you can keep making stuff up.
No one knew who Obama was until he ran for president?
Apparently you don't follow politics very much.
YouTube - Barack Obama 2004 DNC Speech Part 1 LOL! Are you going to try and tell me that, if I were to walk around outside in 2005, and ask people who Obama was, they would be able to answer that?
Oh, and way to only address the "nobody knew him" part. You didn't miss the fact that he has virtually no real personal achievements, did you? So much for experience.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kirk Obama is half black and half white.
Which side of himself is he racist against? The answer probably doesn't stray far from his "mentor" and "friend," his pastor of 20 years! Or is his connection to Wright also a hoax?
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08-15-2008, 01:53 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kirk Obama is half black and half white.
Which side of himself is he racist against? your simple response is very ignorant.
if mccain went to a church for 20 years that supported the kkk, would that be acceptable?
oh wait! past associations don't matter. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by chapstic your simple response is very ignorant.
if mccain went to a church for 20 years that supported the kkk, would that be acceptable?
oh wait! past associations don't matter. Gee, I won't why some black people are angry.... | 
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yet again sir, you dodge the question. | 
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Rep Power: 12 | | dont forget to site your sources, traderjoe
(unless you wrote the 'what has obama accomplished' thing, which you may have, but im guessing not. just trying to protect you from the admins here)
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Quote: Originally Posted by busara dont forget to site your sources, traderjoe
(unless you wrote the 'what has obama accomplished' thing, which you may have, but im guessing not. just trying to protect you from the admins here) I did want to post a link, but I had to wait until I had 15 posts to be able to.
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Quote: Originally Posted by jillian He's still smarter than the shrub....
and we all know about Bush's "military experience"... so get a grip. pssst. Bush isn't running this time. Just thought you might want to know.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bern80 pssst. Bush isn't running this time. Just thought you might want to know. coulda fooled me given that there's no difference between him and Bush lite.
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Quote: Originally Posted by jillian coulda fooled me given that there's no difference between him and Bush lite. From your side of the isle i can see why you would think that.
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