Obama FlipFlops on gay marriage

i said the constitution requires equality.

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Yeah, but thats subject to interpretation. Your post implies that you think that equality means gay marriage. I disagree.

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"There ain't no devil, there's just God when he's drunk." - Tom Waits

ok...so, who decided that couples who are married get tax benefits?
who decided couples who are married get social security benefits?
why?

why are some american citizens allowed to be deprived of equal benefits?
equality is not an opinion.

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Why are Repubicans so obsessed with gay marriage?

There are all sorts of inequalities in the country. The question is whether the inequalities are a problem Constitutionally. If they're based on race, for example, then they probably are (at least if the government is behind it). Not every inequality is a Constitutional issue.

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"There ain't no devil, there's just God when he's drunk." - Tom Waits

The Constitution also states that those powers not specifically delegated to the Fed falls to the states. Marriage is not a Constitutional Right.

If states choose to enact legislation that denies a privilege, not a right, it is within their power to do so. At least on paper.

You're projecting. When have you ever seen me use God as a basis for any argument other than one that pertains to religion? You haven't because I haven't.

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It has been since at least Loving and Zablocki, at least according to the Supreme Court. So for legal purposes it is one. But that doesn't necessarily mean that restrictions on gay marriage are violative.

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"There ain't no devil, there's just God when he's drunk." - Tom Waits

i didn't mean to direct the God part at you...just in general, that is usually the attitude in the opposite argument...

btw, social security is not a state issue.

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The more gay dudes there are. The more ladies for me! Woo Hoo! Yes to gay rights!

If McCain can change his mind on everything, so can Obama.

Good on him, I say. At least he isn't as blatently homophobic as that McCain dude.

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How about Plural marriages? I mean whats wrong with them if your argument is just one of choice? Or marriage of human and animal? How about the right to marry and keep your dead loved one? Not to mention the desire by adults to marry children?

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I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.
-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)

Exactly, if people allow gay marriage they're opening the flood gates for more potentially sexuallly aberrant type marriages, soon people will be saying, "So what if that man wants to marry his sister and have sex with, they should have the same rights as two unrelated people in a marriage", thats the direction things are headed for if gay marriage is allowed. Liberals sometimes don't realize how much they're deteriorating morals and society when they support such nonsense.

One thing the Bass doesn't get and hates with a passion, how come people like myself who disagree with the homosexual lifestyle are automatically labelled "homophobes"? Please quit labelling people that term who disagree with the homosexual lifestyle, whats next, bestialphobia for those of us who find bestiality disgusting and wrong? Liberal Jew media and its terms.

RGS, are you stupid or just a hateful prick? Because I know you already know the answer to these asinine questions of yours.

Really? The plural marriage one is nothing more than personal choice between consenting adults. And what if the dead person puts in their will that they WANT the other person to keep their dead body?

The others are just down the road from the list of perversions you do not mind.

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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.
-Bertrand Russell

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable
-Laurence J. Peters

I never said that you had no right to have an opinion. I just said that it was, in fact, worth nothing.
-Maineman ( on 12 June 2007)