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Old 03-23-2008, 09:07 PM
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What Operating System Do You Use?

About three months ago, I bought a Dell Precision laptop. It has two processors so I can run some special applications with some speed. But I told Dell I would only order the computer if it was shipped with Windows XP, not Vista. I had read so many negative reviews of Vista that I decided to stay away. Now this:

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Should Microsoft Throw Away Vista?

Complete article: http://advice.cio.com/laurianne_mcla...row_away_vista

Throw Vista away. That's what my colleagues at our fellow IDG publication InfoWorld have now argued that Microsoft should do. Give it a dignified resting place, as a stepping-stone OS, and come up with a replacement that's more sensible for enterprise IT. There is historical precedent in the consumer OS space for such a move; look at Windows ME and how it became a footnote in Microsoft history.

"Microsoft should toss Vista in the trash, as the company did with Windows Millennium eight years ago, then issue a Windows XP Second Edition (as it did with Windows 98 eight years ago) that capitalizes on some of Vista's key benefits. Then the company should focus on Windows 7, rather than keep trying to push Vista down unwilling customers' throats. If that's too radical, how about doing an XP Second Edition while also continuing to rework Vista?" writes InfoWorld executive editor Galen Gruman, who created a petition that 100,000 people have now signed asking Microsoft to save Windows XP.
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Complete article: http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/...xp-100k_1.html

Windows Vista was supposed to be a shot in the arm for Microsoft, which had gone five years without a new desktop operating system. It hasn't worked out that way. Instead, Vista sales have been slower than XP's (when adjusted for market size) and there's been a distinct lack of passion for the new OS. In Vista's first year, InfoWorld detected a deep anxiety over Vista among technologists and consumers alike. We decided to do something about it, launching a petition drive to ask Microsoft to keep selling XP after the planned June 30 end-of-sales date. Nine weeks after that Jan. 14 launch, more than 100,000 customers worldwide have signed up. And that doesn't count parallel efforts by our colleagues in Germany and Canada.
So what operating system do you use? Any Vista users? Is your PC now slower as claimed in the negative reviews?
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Old 03-23-2008, 09:56 PM
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I won't use Vista, one reason is most games are not tested to work on it and on the boards I go to all I read are horror stories of how NEW games will not run properly on Vista without major work by the owner. In some cases not at all.
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Ok For Online games, especially well known heavily successful ones , they all maintain online forums. They will have a technical support section and may have a technical support by gamers section also.

This will include a FAQ. Those FAQs are almost always up to date on current and old problems. But if you can not find the answer there they usually maintain a way to either email, online chat or call ( or all 3) the support section.

A BIG fixer for freezes and blackouts are drivers. Not just video drivers but Audio as well and occasional other support items. Usually new drivers fix problems though occasionally a known problem will occur with a new driver and the FAQ will tell you to load a specific older driver.

Usually these Online games also have links to needed drivers for the major companies.
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I won't use Vista, one reason is most games are not tested to work on it and on the boards I go to all I read are horror stories of how NEW games will not run properly on Vista without major work by the owner. In some cases not at all.
The University of California refuses to introduce Vista on its networks. It only grudgingly supports Vista for students who have brought it with them to school.

But Vista has been out for more than one year and even has a massive Service Pack recently released. Is it possible the Vista will bomb completely and that MS will have to introduce Windows 7 early to stop the market share bleeding to other operating systems? If so, Vista will have been a huge financial blunder costing MS we can only guess how much.
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I'm now an Apple affaciando.

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Hardware Overview:

Model Name: MacBook
Model Identifier: MacBook2,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB
Memory: 1 GB
Bus Speed: 667 MHz
Boot ROM Version: MB21.00A5.B07
SMC Version: 1.17f0
Serial Number: W8736M3PZ5V
Sudden Motion Sensor:
State: Enabled
It corrects problems on it's own, truly intuitive. I'll never return to pc's, which is what I learned computer jargon on.
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It corrects problems on it's own, truly intuitive. I'll never return to pc's, which is what I learned computer jargon on.
Again, Apple has almost no games. No reason to own it at all.
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Again, Apple has almost no games. No reason to own it at all.
I don't do games.
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I still use WinXP.

Why f*ck with what works?
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I'm now an Apple affaciando.
Me too. A friend of mine is a networker, and for a decade he kept bugging me to get a Mac. I finally got sick and tired of my PC crashing, freezing, getting infected, and so on, that I walked into a store and bought a Mac on the spot.

Its not as perfect as some Appleheads would have you believe, but it certainly is easier and more stable than Windows. It is no where near as good for spreadsheets, so I wouldn't run a business on a Mac, and I don't play games, but otherwise, I find it way better than Windows.
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I run xp. I have to admit a fondness for poking mac addicts with a stick. have been building cpus since my first amd k5 chip in the days when playing a single mp3 could crash your non-pentium system. I think I still have a few simms collecting dust somewhere. I remember spending money on both an AOL account minutes AND a local access number (long distance) just to play the old gold box version of Neverwinter Nights. I beat The 7th Guest in high school and once formatted a gf's PARENT's computer while installing win95 because I didn't realize 16 mb of ram was simply not enough. I also copied the config.sys and autoexec.bat thinking that I didn't need to copy actual drivers. I was totally wrong. ahhh.. the memories.

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There's a lot of noise in the ether that Vista cannot be salvaged and that it will never be adopted to anywhere near the extent of other MS operating systems. What were they thinking introducing a OS with a 4GB Ram "sweet spot" and breaks so many older programs and XP drivers? Doing so excluded 95 percent of all PCs.

I have not spent any time with a computer game since Quake 2 days, then networked at the UCLA dorms. We also played a lot of Q2 on an outside server from CIT. Q2 is a twitchy shooter and the characters look like punk soldiers. But we often used other character "skins" and would run around the game as Kenny from South Park, or even cows with rocket launchers. In our UCLA v CIT games it was fun to show up in the CIT server with 10 cows and read their whining laments scroll on the screen. Kid stuff, but fun.
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dude... I still miss playing q2 over the t4 lines on campus. I hate to brag, but I used to be accused of being a bot when i'd go on a railgun rampage. Of all the games I really miss, Q2 is it. Mechwarrior 2 was fun to play against the computer science geeks.... bought Diablo the day it came out. the intro to Halflife (which, I thought, had a badass deathmatch mode but no one ever wanted to play)..


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