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Old 01-12-2013, 12:42 AM
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The problem with the direction Microsoft has taken with regard to their operating system is to make each new release easier to use by changing the user interface. This is fine for new users but what about existing users? With each new release of Windows the user has to learn a new interface. What use to be in one place is somewhere else. What once was part of the operating system is in an application or no longer exists. Applications and hardware that worked on the old release may not work on the new release.

I worked in a support capacity for a large organization that had many thousands of computers. The one thing management hated was a new release of windows. Converting to the new release was always costly and there was usually little to be gained.
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Nothing wrong with touch screen being the future for phones. On a computer it's just too gay.

Don't they have the option to make it work like classic windows?
I think the future of computers is both touch screens and keyboards.
The new Touch is Microsoft's vision.
Uh...no.
It is not their vision, it is their attempt to get into the tablet market where they are almost non-existent. They have made several attempts into that market and flat out get pummeled by the far-far-far better performance of Android and iPad. So, their "vision" is to try and make a tablet more like a mini-laptop, where they have a chance.
Windows 8 is obviously designed for touchscreen. Without touchscreen, no one likes it. Their hope is everyone will want to buy a touchscreen laptop.
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Nothing wrong with touch screen being the future for phones. On a computer it's just too gay.

Don't they have the option to make it work like classic windows?
I think the future of computers is both touch screens and keyboards.
The new Touch is Microsoft's vision.
Uh...no.
It is not their vision, it is their attempt to get into the tablet market where they are almost non-existent. They have made several attempts into that market and flat out get pummeled by the far-far-far better performance of Android and iPad. So, their "vision" is to try and make a tablet more like a mini-laptop, where they have a chance.
Windows 8 is obviously designed for touchscreen. Without touchscreen, no one likes it. Their hope is everyone will want to buy a touchscreen laptop.
I certainly won't be one of them. On average, people spend only 15% of their computer time interfacing with the computer. We spend most of our time at the computer, reading, listening, watching videos, and just thinking not typing, mousing, or swiping screens.

Microsoft's motive in changing the interface with each new release of Windows has little to do with productivity and a lot to do with marketing.
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I think the future of computers is both touch screens and keyboards.
The new Touch is Microsoft's vision.
Uh...no.
It is not their vision, it is their attempt to get into the tablet market where they are almost non-existent. They have made several attempts into that market and flat out get pummeled by the far-far-far better performance of Android and iPad. So, their "vision" is to try and make a tablet more like a mini-laptop, where they have a chance.
Windows 8 is obviously designed for touchscreen. Without touchscreen, no one likes it. Their hope is everyone will want to buy a touchscreen laptop.
I certainly won't be one of them. On average, people spend only 15% of their computer time interfacing with the computer. We spend most of our time at the computer, reading, listening, watching videos, and just thinking not typing, mousing, or swiping screens.

Microsoft's motive in changing the interface with each new release of Windows has little to do with productivity and a lot to do with marketing.
I wish I remembered where I read it - but Google is there so...anyhow - the 2013 list of "endangered businesses" list Microsoft for the first time on the list.
Endangered businesses are not businesses necessarily doing poorly today - but are predicted to do poorly in the future.
Microsoft has once again made a bad bet. They went all in on the Windows 8 platform - marketing the daylights out of it - the result has been terrible. People hate it. PC sales over the Christmas season were not good, and worse now. PC manufacturers are putting considerable pressure on Microsoft - blaming Windows 8 for the poor sales.
Currently Dell is not including Win 7 as an offering, but are rumored to begin offering Win 7 as an option on all computers as they did with Vista/XP
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Uh...no.
It is not their vision, it is their attempt to get into the tablet market where they are almost non-existent. They have made several attempts into that market and flat out get pummeled by the far-far-far better performance of Android and iPad. So, their "vision" is to try and make a tablet more like a mini-laptop, where they have a chance.
Windows 8 is obviously designed for touchscreen. Without touchscreen, no one likes it. Their hope is everyone will want to buy a touchscreen laptop.
I certainly won't be one of them. On average, people spend only 15% of their computer time interfacing with the computer. We spend most of our time at the computer, reading, listening, watching videos, and just thinking not typing, mousing, or swiping screens.

Microsoft's motive in changing the interface with each new release of Windows has little to do with productivity and a lot to do with marketing.
I wish I remembered where I read it - but Google is there so...anyhow - the 2013 list of "endangered businesses" list Microsoft for the first time on the list.
Endangered businesses are not businesses necessarily doing poorly today - but are predicted to do poorly in the future.
Microsoft has once again made a bad bet. They went all in on the Windows 8 platform - marketing the daylights out of it - the result has been terrible. People hate it. PC sales over the Christmas season were not good, and worse now. PC manufacturers are putting considerable pressure on Microsoft - blaming Windows 8 for the poor sales.
Currently Dell is not including Win 7 as an offering, but are rumored to begin offering Win 7 as an option on all computers as they did with Vista/XP
Windows 8 itself?
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I certainly won't be one of them. On average, people spend only 15% of their computer time interfacing with the computer. We spend most of our time at the computer, reading, listening, watching videos, and just thinking not typing, mousing, or swiping screens.

Microsoft's motive in changing the interface with each new release of Windows has little to do with productivity and a lot to do with marketing.
I wish I remembered where I read it - but Google is there so...anyhow - the 2013 list of "endangered businesses" list Microsoft for the first time on the list.
Endangered businesses are not businesses necessarily doing poorly today - but are predicted to do poorly in the future.
Microsoft has once again made a bad bet. They went all in on the Windows 8 platform - marketing the daylights out of it - the result has been terrible. People hate it. PC sales over the Christmas season were not good, and worse now. PC manufacturers are putting considerable pressure on Microsoft - blaming Windows 8 for the poor sales.
Currently Dell is not including Win 7 as an offering, but are rumored to begin offering Win 7 as an option on all computers as they did with Vista/XP
Windows 8 itself?
Tablets as well - have you seen the side-by-side reviews of these new M$ tablets in comparison to iPad and Android? There are a number of video revies out there by reputable folks - holy cow...who knowingly in their right mind would buy one of these things?
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I wish I remembered where I read it - but Google is there so...anyhow - the 2013 list of "endangered businesses" list Microsoft for the first time on the list.
Endangered businesses are not businesses necessarily doing poorly today - but are predicted to do poorly in the future.
Microsoft has once again made a bad bet. They went all in on the Windows 8 platform - marketing the daylights out of it - the result has been terrible. People hate it. PC sales over the Christmas season were not good, and worse now. PC manufacturers are putting considerable pressure on Microsoft - blaming Windows 8 for the poor sales.
Currently Dell is not including Win 7 as an offering, but are rumored to begin offering Win 7 as an option on all computers as they did with Vista/XP
Windows 8 itself?
Tablets as well - have you seen the side-by-side reviews of these new M$ tablets in comparison to iPad and Android? There are a number of video revies out there by reputable folks - holy cow...who knowingly in their right mind would buy one of these things?
I'll stick with my Android.
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Windows 8 itself?
Tablets as well - have you seen the side-by-side reviews of these new M$ tablets in comparison to iPad and Android? There are a number of video revies out there by reputable folks - holy cow...who knowingly in their right mind would buy one of these things?
I'll stick with my Android.
(Come on R2, time to go........)
me too...I would love to have one of the "zatab" tablets...root access Android out of the box.
Voted best tablet option yet. Even has an HDMI jack.
Just look at the options
Open & Hackable Android tablet
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Uh...no.
It is not their vision, it is their attempt to get into the tablet market where they are almost non-existent. They have made several attempts into that market and flat out get pummeled by the far-far-far better performance of Android and iPad. So, their "vision" is to try and make a tablet more like a mini-laptop, where they have a chance.
Windows 8 is obviously designed for touchscreen. Without touchscreen, no one likes it. Their hope is everyone will want to buy a touchscreen laptop.
I certainly won't be one of them. On average, people spend only 15% of their computer time interfacing with the computer. We spend most of our time at the computer, reading, listening, watching videos, and just thinking not typing, mousing, or swiping screens.

Microsoft's motive in changing the interface with each new release of Windows has little to do with productivity and a lot to do with marketing.
I wish I remembered where I read it - but Google is there so...anyhow - the 2013 list of "endangered businesses" list Microsoft for the first time on the list.
Endangered businesses are not businesses necessarily doing poorly today - but are predicted to do poorly in the future.
Microsoft has once again made a bad bet. They went all in on the Windows 8 platform - marketing the daylights out of it - the result has been terrible. People hate it. PC sales over the Christmas season were not good, and worse now. PC manufacturers are putting considerable pressure on Microsoft - blaming Windows 8 for the poor sales.
Currently Dell is not including Win 7 as an offering, but are rumored to begin offering Win 7 as an option on all computers as they did with Vista/XP
Having used Windows 8 and Windows 7 on a not-tablet PC, I see no reason to go to it unless you want windows on a tablet.
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My opinion is Windows 8 is specially made for smart phones and touch screen computers and windows 7 is better than this in appearance.
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I just got it last week. It is ok, different, but ok. My only problem is my computer is not refreshing automatically. I called windows help, they said it was a normal problem for windows 8. He sent tech in to fix it for free. Then the fuck said I have too many problems and trying to charge me 69.99. Oh hell no! I am calling today when I get off, and I am not happy
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I love my Xyboard (Jellybean based Android) Tablet. But I'm still bringing in a Windows 8 Surface Pro to eval.

With an I5 CPU, it makes the iPad and even the new Nexus 10 look like toys. The big issue is the classic one - battery life. That beefy processor sucks a lot of juice. Where the Motorola gives a solid 12 hours worth of use on a charge, the estimate on the Windows pad is a paltry 4 hours. We'll see how that affects real life.
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Oh hell yeah...about time an operating system finally allows all of us who want to operate their computer off of a projection screen. Thank God.
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