Muslims who now abuse women have not lived in any other time. They behave as they do because that is the tenets of their religion.

ROFL

Now the open Bullshit starts.

{One who is not circumcised is not a Muslim, and even her parents are seen as not
being in the religion} (Married men, Wagberi7).

All that is needed for evil to prevail is for leftists to lie to excuse evil.

Of course, Islam commands women be treated well.

{Men are superior to women on account of the qualities with which God has gifted the one above the other, and on account of the outlay they make from their substance for them. Virtuous women are obedient, careful, during the husband's absence, because God has of them been careful. But chide those for whose refractoriness you have cause to fear; remove them into beds apart, and scourge them: but if they are obedient to you, then seek not occasion against them: verily, God is High, Great! Rodwell} Surah 4:34

Hey, beating women is a sign of honor - Allah wills it.

{"Narrated Ikrima: 'Rifaa divorced his wife whereupon Abdur-Rahman married her. Aisha said that the lady came wearing a green veil and complained to her (Aisha) and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating. It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah's messenger came, Aisha said, "I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes! When Abdur-Rahman heard that his wife had gone to the prophet, he came with his two sons from another wife. She said, "By Allah! I have done no wrong to him, but he is impotent and is as useless to me as this," holding and showing the fringe of her garment. Abdur-Rahman said, "By Allah, O Allah's messenger! She has told a lie. I am very strong and can satisfy her, but she is disobedient and wants to go back to Rifaa." Allah's messenger said to her, "If that is your intention, then know that it is unlawful for you to remarry Rifaa unless Abdur-Rahman has had sexual intercourse with you." The prophet saw two boys with Abdur-Rahman and asked (him), "Are these your sons?" On that Abdur-Rahman said, "Yes." The prophet said, "You claim what you claim (that he is impotent)? But by Allah, these boys resemble him as a crow resembles a crow.""} Hadith Al Bukhari 7:715

Ah yes, beating a wife pleases Muhammad.

Conservative? They voted for George W. Bush?

Oh wait, you're just lying again, Allahu Akbar.

Well, Muslims you excuse - but you share a common enemy, so I understand your motivation.

Yeah, what Muslims do today shouldn't be judged by today's standards, the poor darlings are just misunderstood. If we just get rid of capitalism and individual liberty, we can free them...

The progressive view is so enlightened.

That's nice.

We are on opposite sides. I would love to see an end to the evil that is literal Islam - you would lover to see an end to individual liberty. We have conflicting ideals.

It's much more rational that you feel threatened by old women carrying signs declaring they are "Taxed Enough Already." You have priorities.



Women have it swell in the Islamic world!

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Hmm, double post...

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Then how come all the Muslims I lived with in the middle east didn't abuse women?

I think your misconceptions are caused by two different things.

It's all about "doctrine vs implementation". There are all kinds of doctrine in the old testament that Christians and Jews do not practice anymore. Like aborting any baby concieved out of wedlock, or working on the Sabbath, stoning adulterers, or eating shellfish, or pork.

It appears that people who think all Muslims are this....or...all Muslims are that....have never spent any time around Muslims.

When I was in Syria, I was actually exposed to two of my ex wife's cousins who were Hezzbolah. They eventually ended up shaming thier families because they threatened my life, but once one of them told me "we like Americans like Bush more than Clinton, because Clinton is a liberal, and Bush fears God like we do"...he went on to rail on about how liberals in America are all gay, and get divorces, and are against God...which sounds like the same stuff you say all the time.



Muslims have done nothing that needs an apology. I haven't excused anti western Muslim terrorists for anything, and to think that American liberals, Democrats, or lefties excuse terrorism is laughable, and only something I can imagine Rush Limbaugh having the nerve to assert.

My enemy is not Islam, Christianity, liberals, or conservatives. My enemy are people that want to hate others enough to justify the violence they want to happen to people they hate.

I'm having trouble unwinding this fantasy. How much time have you spent living with Muslims?....or is all you know about them based on misinterpreted Q'uran verses?

I'm not a liberal, and not a progresive, and I didn't vote for Obama. I'm something you don't recognize anymore, a Goldwater/Eisenhower conservative.

Once again, "doctrine vs implementation".

I would not like to see an end to individual liberty, I am a social Libertarian. You on the other hand...seem to be angry and ignorant, just like the anti western Muslim extremists.

I've attended two Tea Party rallies, and didn't feel threatened by anyone. usually people learn to NOT jump to conclusions in thier first year logic courses in college, did you skip those?

These women have it bad because those men are backwards fundamentalist conservative hicks.

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Hmmm...double the ingnorance and paranoia..........sorry, couldn't resist.....

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You are a faithful liar for Allah.

{Book 009, Number 3526:

…So I informed him [Muhammad]. (By that time) Mu'awiya, Abu Jahm and Usama b. Zaid had given her the proposal of marriage. Allah's Messenger said: So far as Mu'awiya is concerned, he is a poor man without any property. So far as Abu Jahm is concerned, he is a great beater of women, but Usama b. Zaid... She pointed with her hand (that she did not approve of the idea of marrying) Usama. But Allah's Messenger said: Obedience to Allah and obedience to His Messenger is better for thee. She said: So I married him, and I became an object of envy.}

Lo, Allah is vicious and cruel.
Got it, it's just old doctrine, Muslims would never actually do such things.

Jessica Mokdad: Islamic Honor Killing in Michigan - Atlas Shrugs

CNN, First Major Media Outlet to Identify Motive in Thwarted Islamic Honor Killing of Harry Potter Actress - Atlas Shrugs

(Want 500,000 more? Not a problem.)

Or they've pulled their heads out of their asses.

But you've said you've never been threatened by Muslims?

No doubt, everyone like bunker busters dropped on them. I'm sure they loved Bush, just as you claim....




Leftism embraces Islam as another means of destroying American culture and liberty.

Yawn

Who gives a fuck? Islam is at war with civilization.

LOL

Nah, more of a Pol Pot "conservative."

Yawn.

I had a 3.92 GPA in college, did quite well in logic.

They have it bad because those men are Muslims.

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They were Hezzbolah, and they threatened me because I was an American, not because I wasn't a Muslim, or because of anything in the Q'uran.

Yet you refuse to use it.....hmmm

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Would you care to show where islam has improved society, say in the last one hundred years? Where is it that an islamic society has people flocking to join because of the productive, peaceful society? Islam perpetuates this type of behavior. It justifies it, and welcomes it. Other wise, you would see riots when something like this happened (muslims will riot if there is a "drawing" of their worshipped prophet).... Hey, but don't let the truth get in the way of a good story....

Got to love your effort.... one woman out how many millions with a serious mental illness does something absolutely horrible how many years ago, and, you, want to ignore the thousands of instances of muslim crimes against humantiy and focus on the one abnormal Christian crime over the normal of islam. Just sayin' ...

Christianity and Islam shouldn't be looked towards to improve economies or societies, they should be looked towards to improve the spiritual health of individual people.

When I lived in the middle east, with Muslims, I noticed about the same formula for humanity was present. It's my own formula...keep that in mind....but for every 10 people in the world, there are 6 ordinary people just trying to live thier lives in peace, 1 loser, 1 saint, 1 leader, and 1 criminal.

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Islam has features that most religions do - the main one being that about 90% of Muslims don't actually follow it. Good thing too, Islam is pure evil and cannot coexist with civilization.

Hezbollah is the "Party of Allah." They threatened you because you are Dhimmi and did not submit with offering of Jizzya. They were duty bound to kill you.


You think the web of falsehoods you spin is "logical?"

It would be an interesting syllogism that supported the dishonest presentation of a predatory and violent creed as "peaceful."

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Somehow Jon Stewart and Truthseeker just don't belong together.

If they "spent as much as one could", why didn't their deficits come close to Obama's (even when you add them together)? Just sayin' ....

So fourteen hundred years of "enlightenment" improved nothing?

So are you saying the "peaceful religion" doesn't work (large scale)?

Dress as a woman and walk into that square in Egypt. Then come back and tell us how you were treated with respect.