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Old 07-10-2008, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondDave View Post
And let me guess... it is up to you and every other leftist to decide what is fair??.... sounds like the whiney professors/self-appointed know-it-alls complaining that they do not earn as much as people working in the real world

No.... it is up to the market.. your skills.... your projection of yourself.... your accomplishments... your decisions... etc.... to see how much compensation you can get for your services....

All people are created equal in terms of their rights and basic genetic structure... not everyone is going to have the genes of Michael Jordan or the intellect of Stephen Freaking Hawking.... but it is not up to government to say "awwwwwww.... poor baby" and make it up to you....

If you want success... you and every other citizen has the right to strive for it and achieve it... just as you have the right to sit on your lazy ass and wallow in your own filth for achieving nothing

I clawed my way up from NOTHING.... collecting cans with my grandmother for meat money to be able to have meat once or twice a week.... gardening about 90% of our yard... canning, freezing whatever we could.... working 39 hours a week at age 16 because the law said I could not work 40... using that $ to supplement my grandmother's earnings... working 2 jobs (food service by day and playing in a band at night) until I was 22.... realized that this would go nowhere and made the CHOICE to better myself... put the effort in and served my country in the military for 5 years... took advantage of my training, learned everything I could on and off the job.... got married, had a kid, and left the service... worked 2 jobs at a time... all the overtime I could get... learned even more... did what I have to do... and now I make more than about 95% of the others in this great country... because I MADE IT HAPPEN... not because I thought it was OWED to me... or that life was unfair... I made it by my own freaking efforts, because I was given the freedom to do so... and if my decisions would have been wrong instead of right, I would have had to live with the consequences of those decisions.... why??? because that is the price of freedom.... freedom is not just the freedom to get what you want because you want it... freedom is the opportunity to make of yourself what you want, by your own hand
didnt i just say that im simply pointing out where it isnt fair and that im not advocating socialism?
im very glad you have succeeded in this country. i truly am. and i want more people to succeed. if only your attitude of wanting more was more prevalent.
but if you see nothing wrong with the real income for the vast majority of people in this country actually going down over the last 30 years while the elites gather up all the wealth and assets and resources, well, thats fine. i just feel we can make it a little easier for the disadvantaged to succeed. more affordable housing. higher paying jobs. cheaper education. no handouts, just easier upward mobility.
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