Originally Posted by LOki

Is your morality really all that virtuous if it must be forced upon others at gunpoint?This is a ridiculous goal, and inherently unjust; the better goal is, "The target we should be setting for ourselves is not halving the proportion of people living in extreme poverty, and without enough to eat, but ensuring that no one, or virtually no one, is forced through the threat or application of coercive violence to live in such degrading conditions."

If people end up living in extreme poverty, and without enough to eat, due to their inherent lack of individual merit, or value to others, so much so that other will not voluntarly relieve them, then I'm fine with them dying from extreme poverty, and and lack of enough to eat--because the patently obvious reality is, we are not *actually* created equal.